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Old 12-07-2017, 06:48 PM
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Some times you need to bring more customer to the market to justify continuing manufacture.
 
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And guess what the new celebrity track car is on Grand Tour - yep the 4 cylinder 2.0 F-Type....
 
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Originally Posted by stmcknig
And guess what the new celebrity track car is on Grand Tour - yep the 4 cylinder 2.0 F-Type....
Just finished watching the show, and yep it's a 2.0 four-pot F-Type.
Problem is they never once said what flavour of F-Type it is, all they ever said was "Jaguar F-Type". I can only guess they are prevented from giving more info about the car because it could be seen as advertising.
 
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Old 12-07-2017, 09:48 PM
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[QUOTE=Queen and Country;1805388]It increases the value- no different that the 2.0 did for Audi
It opens a wider pool of would be buyers (due to fuel consumption- and insurance rates)
Now people actually know Jaguar is still in business and then they find Jaguar makes a supercharged 5l V8.[/Q
 
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Old 12-07-2017, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Burt Gummer
"If you want a fast F-Type don't buy this car."

"Smiles per mile? Not quite there with this car."

"It makes an OK noise."

The man summed it up. It sucks.

0-60 sounds like a Mini Cooper, and not the S either.
+1. My tuned and pullied MINI is quicker (about the same as the stock V6S MT).
 
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Old 12-08-2017, 12:59 AM
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Wink 2.0l is great !

I'm 26 years old, and I wanted :

A funny daily driver !
A car to make approximately 3000 km a month !
A car that looks awesome.
A car that meet the budget of a 26 years old guy.
A car with a waranty and included services during 4 years.

Well, the Jaguar F-Type 2.0L is perfect for that !
It's as fast as the V6 340hp and consume less fuel, and the 2.0L is 10k less expensive in Europe.

I try the V6 and V8 on road, also the V8 on track. And I swear that each morning, with the sun, the snow or the rain I have a huge smile on the face when i take the wheel of my 2.0L F-Type.

By the way as it was said before 99% of the people look at this car thinking it cost more than 130k ! Not a lot of people can say which engine it's inside.

And don't worry, I will buy a real V12 6.0L engine when i will be older ( around 35 ), but to begin this 2.0L is perfect !
 
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Old 12-08-2017, 01:13 AM
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Meh! On the other hand, the 2.0 turbo auto is just 0.1 second slower 0-60 than the manual 380hp V6 'S' (!), gets better gas mileage, is significantly lighter on the front end, and should rock those lighter stock 18" wheels. Oh, and its $21,300 less expensive at the 'starting price'... In fact, its only a few 10ths of a second behind *any* of the V6 models...

sounds like a deal to me...
 
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Big price difference here in Oz as well.
The base 2.0 coupe auto is $120,000 drive away, the base 3.0 coupe auto is $140,000 drive away. And these are "stripper" cars with zero options.
 
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Old 12-08-2017, 05:07 AM
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€20,000 difference here in Ireland in the 2.0 and the 3.0,cheaper co2 emission tax per year as well, so a car will nearly equal power, 20 grand for an exhaust, I don't think so. After market exhausts are out early next year for the 2.0,so that solved if anyone once more bang and crackle.
 
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Old 12-08-2017, 08:05 AM
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Automatic, turbo, 4-cyl car is an appliance. Personally, I bought F-type not because it was relatively cheap (it was), but because it was driver's car that also had class. If you remove driver's car aspect, I am not interested in it. YMMV.
 
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Old 12-08-2017, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SinF
Automatic, turbo, 4-cyl car is an appliance. Personally, I bought F-type not because it was relatively cheap (it was), but because it was driver's car that also had class. If you remove driver's car aspect, I am not interested in it. YMMV.
If you take a drive in the 2.0 you'll see it's a drivers car, and anyone driving one is as classy and it looks as classy as another one, sure if someone isn't interested, that's their personal choice.
 
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I don't care much one way or the other; yes, a cheaper F type impacts all current owners in a negative way....OTOH, I'm sure it's a nice car, it's a good thing if it helps Jaguar remain viable and, well, 4cyl turbos are the way of the future.....not hard to see. Did I miss anything or do we know the actual weight difference between the 4cyl vs. the V6? ...regardless, the F type will never be truly light and I doubt the engine weight difference will be able to make up for the power deficit on a track.....doesn't mean it isn't a fun car to drive though.

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Old 12-08-2017, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DPelletier
I don't care much one way or the other; yes, a cheaper F type impacts all current owners in a negative way....OTOH, I'm sure it's a nice car, it's a good thing if it helps Jaguar remain viable and, well, 4cyl turbos are the way of the future.....not hard to see. Did I miss anything or do we know the actual weight difference between the 4cyl vs. the V6? ...regardless, the F type will never be truly light and I doubt the engine weight difference will be able to make up for the power deficit on a track.....doesn't mean it isn't a fun car to drive though.

Cheers,
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Agreed. With the weight it isnt so much that there is an enormous difference (52kg), but the weight of the engine is pushed back behind the front axle so the steering is sharper so on a small track with lots of turns it would be awesome.

That is also the case with the XEs, I've driven the XE S (what you call the 30T) which has the base supercharged 6 in it, and the XE 25T which has the ecoboost 4, the 25T is definitely pointier in steering and handles better, though I thought the engine in the 6 was a better match for the transmission.
 
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Old 12-08-2017, 04:37 PM
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If the base V6 is any indication, watch for amazing deals on the 2.0 F Type in the States. I too am curious what VAP can do with an exhaust and tune.
 
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I don’t feel the 2.0 cheapens the brand etc as has been said, and I know it will make for a sweeter handling car - but... there’s only so much you can do with a 4 cylinder in terms of soundtrack. Exhausts can’t work miracles. The only decent sounding 4’s I have heard are flat 4’s in Subaru’s.
 

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Well the AMG 4-cyl has some respectable snaps and crackles. CLK45 I believe.

Almost bought one before I learned about the F-Type. 355hp and easily bumped to 425hp at the time, probably 500 by now.
 
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I was following a new focus RS yesterday and that sounded pretty snorty
 
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Old 12-08-2017, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BruceTheQuail
I was following a new focus RS yesterday and that sounded pretty snorty
Could you not pass him Bruce
 
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Originally Posted by SinF
Automatic, turbo, 4-cyl car is an appliance.
Do you feel the same about the Alfa 4C?
 
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Old 12-09-2017, 10:43 AM
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I would be happy to see more F-Types. That means that there will be a longer parts supply chain for things used in common. I have the V8S and LOVE it. The great thing is that the Range Rover lads also use the exact same engine in the V8 powered Range Rovers. That means that I can hopefully run my V8S for a VERY long time.
 



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