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Messed up while changing rear pads. Need Help.

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Old Jun 30, 2024 | 03:12 PM
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I received the dash notification that my pads were worn, and I determined that it was the rear ones. I bought some low dust pads and thought that I followed the procedure to release the parking brake. Well, something went wrong. I was for sure able to release the parking brake and get the pads off, but at some point it must have reactivated. Perhaps I should have turned the ignition off, or I ran out of time? The piston extended all the way out and fell out. Now I don't know how to get it back together. It's easy enough to put thread the one part on the screw, but I can't figure out a way to get the boot recaptured. Any suggestions? I've searched the internet and can't find anyone whose encountered this scenario. FYI, my car has a manual transmission if that matters.


 
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Old Jun 30, 2024 | 08:07 PM
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I believe I’ve read about the exact scenario you describe on this forum. This document includes directions for putting the EPB into maintenance mode.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/lsrji...csgyoz6wk&dl=0
 
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Old Jul 1, 2024 | 07:36 AM
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Correct-you need to put it in maintenance mode. Then don't forget to undo it before you drive again.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2024 | 08:08 AM
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I understand that it needs to be in maintenance mode. It was in maintenance mode and I was able to get the pads off. Unfortunately, it went out of maintenance mode at some point for some unknown reason and barfed out the piston. Now I have to get it all back together again. I need to know if there are any tricks to doing this. Last night I decided that it would be easier if I completely removed the assembly from the car, so I have done that.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2024 | 06:09 PM
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About to do this procedure myself. Sorry to hear this happened.

Are we supposed to turn the ignition off after initiating maintenance mode?

 
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Old Jul 2, 2024 | 06:17 PM
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I think that perhaps that's the case. I don't know if my car being a manual factored into the equation either. The easy way to avoid the problem is to unplug the connector to the electronic motor once you get it into maintenance mode.

I have not got to this point yet, but you'll also need a tool to compress the piston. You can't use a C-clamp. Here's what I'm planning on using because I saw someone use it in another video.

Amazon.com: ZCEN Heavy Duty Brake Pad Spreader Caliper Piston Pusher Disc Brake Caliper Compression Tool for Car Light Truck : Automotive Amazon.com: ZCEN Heavy Duty Brake Pad Spreader Caliper Piston Pusher Disc Brake Caliper Compression Tool for Car Light Truck : Automotive
 
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Old Jul 2, 2024 | 07:52 PM
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One other thought - were you on a battery tender during this period? Could having the ignition on for a while have triggered a low voltage state and reversed maintenance mode?

That tool looks good - does the piston rotate as it retracts?
 
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Old Jul 2, 2024 | 10:06 PM
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My car wasn't connected to a battery tender.

The piston itself doesn't rotate, but it travels down a spiral shaft.
 
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Old Jul 3, 2024 | 12:19 AM
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You need to remove the motor off the caliper and you'll see a place to crank the spindle with an allen key or torx...can't remember. Be careful the screws to remove the motor are tight and relatively easy to strip.
 

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Old Jul 3, 2024 | 12:31 PM
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Don't think that tool will work?
It just pushes straight in same as the old C-Clamp method and I have always had to rotate while pushing the caliper piston back in?

I use the surprisingly nice Harbor Freight kit. About $45.

Disc Brake Caliper Tool



I was surprised that at least one of the adapters did fit Jaguar.
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Old Jul 3, 2024 | 02:13 PM
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I don't know. In the video below, it didn't rotate (externally).

 
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Old Jul 3, 2024 | 06:17 PM
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Some thoughts:
  • First recharge your battery with a CTEK or other charger / maintainer. I think a low voltage state reversed maintenance mode and pushed the piston out.
  • Once fully charged I would keep it connected to the CTEK and put your brakes back into maintenance mode (your EPB motor currently thinks its fully extended in parking mode based on the piston having been pushed out).
  • Then screw the thrust nut fully on until it stops and push the piston as far as it will go. The thrust nut locks into the piston so you may have to turn it until it seats (see below - thanks for the guide, DJS).
  • The car performs an automatic brake pad clearance adjustment after you finish installing the new pads and exit maintenance mode.
  • I haven't done this DIY on the Jag so hopefully someone else can chime in if this seems reasonable.

 
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Old Jul 4, 2024 | 08:46 AM
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Sorry I was posting about turning the EB caliper in. Your right now it looks to be automatic?
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Old Aug 6, 2024 | 06:50 PM
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After having my F-Type sitting jacked up in my garage for over a month, I finally managed to get it back together. The thing that I was getting hung up on was how to get the rubber boot on. There just seemed to be no way to get it in place after I started pressing the piston in place. Then I found the following video:
At about 4:38, he shows how the boot can be pulled down the piston. You start seating it in the piston shaft prior to pressing in the piston. One thing that I had assumed based on just looking at the piston was that the top of the piston was a separate piece from the rest of it. This isn't the case. It just appeared that way. I didn't use the grease that he showed in the video. Instead, I just used DOT4 brake fluid. It worked fine. I had to bleed a ton of brake fluid to get all of the air out. This makes sense due to the entire piston being full of air.

The pressing tool that I purchased did work. There's no need to purchase one that rotates or has a special head that mates with the top of the piston. It only took me about an hour to do the other side of the car. One suggestion that I'll make is to definitely disconnect the electrical connection to the electric parking brake once you put the car in maintenance mode. By doing this you'll avoid the possibility of the car turning on and the piston coming out. Just don't forget to reconnect it.

After getting everything back together and turning the car back on, I had a brake system fault error show up on the display. My heart sank. I turned the car off and back on and it didn't reappear. I've driven the car for an entire day, and it seems to be driving perfectly.

Thank you everyone for your help. If you have any questions, please ask before what I've learned takes a prompt exit from my head.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2024 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by clubairth1
Don't think that tool will work?
It just pushes straight in same as the old C-Clamp method and I have always had to rotate while pushing the caliper piston back in?

I use the surprisingly nice Harbor Freight kit. About $45.

Disc Brake Caliper Tool



I was surprised that at least one of the adapters did fit Jaguar.
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Probably the adapter for a Ford.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2024 | 09:13 PM
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Well done @Bret_T and thanks for posting the solution. Didn't realize you were fighting with the rubber boot. That is a great video also!
 
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