Hi friends, can you tell me what year, f type have most reliable engine and its most reliable in general, should i choose with v6 or v8
also,
what year car have ultra comfortable suspention ? i am new to jaguar so i dont know anything please advice thanks.

 

From my experience I think both are very reliable for the most part (essentially the same engine), although once you start modding them there can be issues at least with maintaining them, and I would have thought most people would be less likely to mod an 8 than a six. The coolant pipes are a long term problem in both, although I'm not sure whether the newest ones have aluminium pipes standard.

For suspension I havent noticed a difference by year, although the seat style makes a difference and also the wheel and tyre choice makes a difference, the only thing that is constant is that the base models without the adaptive suspension have a firmer ride, whereas the "normal" setting in the adaptive suspension models is more comfortable, with it being firmer still in dynamic. Mine has adaptive with 21 inch wheels and the ride is extremely comfortable, as nice or nicer than it was with the stock 19 inch wheels.

 

The case for the v6 is that since it is a modified v8, it has larger oil capacity compared to some other manufacturers, additionally many v6 have the same transmission as the v8s...

 

If you want the ultimate reliable..then go with a base/premium V6. It doesn't have the additional equipment that the higher trim levels have which mean less stuff prone to breaking and reduced maintenance costs.

 

Actually, my view would be almost the exact opposite. Get the better suspension that's in both the V6-S and V8 - it isn't a reliability issue. There's a lot of commonality between the V6 and V8 (from a reliability perspective), so get the one you want. Members here that have a V6 will almost universally recommend the V6, while the V8 owners are just as happy with what they have.

From a reliability standpoint, you might prefer to skip the earlier MY's that have the original plastic cooling pipes, but even those aren't always a problem (my MY14 hasn't been a problem), and the original ones may have already been replace (or can be updated).

 

Also which have bigger brakes v6 or v6?

 

I guess you mean V6 or V8, in which case the V8 usually has bigger brakes than the V6 but not always as the V6 could be optioned up to V8 spec brakes, although this was fairly rare.
Or else you could do what I did and DIY upgrade my stock V6S rear brakes to V8 (R) spec.
Then of course you have the carbon ceramic brakes option, never a stock fitting on any F-Type (not even the SVR) and hideously expensive so fairly rare. Maybe the Project 7 came stock with carbon ceramics?
I have never read or heard of a V6 with carbon ceramic brakes and I'm not even sure they were available as a factory option on any V6 but I suspect one or two V6 owners have fitted them.
As a quick guide to factory F-Type brake set-ups I recently posted the following text on a nearby thread:
The F-Type has three difference brake set-ups (four if you count the carbon ceramics):
Performance: 355 mm front and 326 mm rear. Standard on the "base" model V6 and the four potter.
High Performance: 380 mm front and 326 mm rear. Standard on the V6S and P380 and I think R-Dynamic.
Super Performance: 380 mm front and 376 mm rear. Standard on all V8 versions so V8S, R and SVR etc, optional on V6S etc.

 

Great thanks for the explanation , which year and model is ultra reliable and also,
which rides the best?

 

Both the V6 and V8 can be super rock solid, any year F-Type. Both the V6 and V8 can be nightmares, any year F-Type. Preventive maintenance/overall care/records + age/mileage are the biggest factors. If you buy a 2014 that has been cared for properly (all the weak points addressed, proper fluid changes, etc) it will likely be the better buy vs a 2019 model year that has been driven hard and not cared for. Obviously very new cars with very little mileage have a bit of that "new car" buffer built in still, but that is quickly going away even with the newer cars. Hope this helps.

 

As usual, the prevailing wisdom when a new vehicle is introduced, is to stay away from the first iterations... 2013s, perhaps 2014s, while the manufacturer sorts out the issues. A few of the early issues, besides the flanged coolant lines, are 'sticky' buttons and surfaces (but from forums posts, cleared/cleaned with denatured alcohol), the central vent may develop a grinding noise and failure to raise/lower consistently, rusting cross members underneath the car, clutch failure on MT cars (2016-2019) and microcracking of the headllight lenses. I bought my 2017 V6 Premium, manual transmission with the Vision Pack in 2020. No issue with sticky interior bits, central vent works fine. The clutch had been replaced with the correct 4th gen unit, no rusting cross members. The headlights did have the microcracking and were replaced. I don't know if there ever was a definitive cause identified. Proactively, I had the SuperCharger oil replaced. In a 6 it can be extracted and refilled in the car. JLR says that oil is good for 100,000 miles, but since the flanged heater pipes were being replaced anyway, I had fresh oil put in.
If you find a candidate for purchase, take the engine cover off and inspect that area for corrosion. With the stock 'honeycomb' vents, water intrusion is likely, even with the engine cover in place. The water can damage the injectors as well as pool around other vital components.
A really good feature is that you can change the oil from the engine compartment using a Mityvac for the extraction. If the car no longer eligible for the warranty oil changes, you can save about $300-$400 doing it yourself.
Here's a link to the video I found most helpful: It says for F type R, but it works for any.


Spend some time on this forum looking through topics. Also check out YouTube videos for what F owners have posted there.

The 'depends' part is based on how the previous owner treated the car, how it was maintained and serviced... a must is a CarFax report.

 

I’ve put 25k miles on my V8 R in a year and a half with no issues so honestly I don’t think you can go wrong with either configuration. I have a ‘21 so the coolant pipes aren’t a concern for me. I think the post facelift cars are dead reliable but if you want the old face or want a further depreciated model, as long as you get the aluminum coolant pipe mod the car will be bulletproof if you keep up with it - regardless if it’s a V6 or V8.

 

It doesn't have the additional equipment that the higher trim levels have which mean less stuff prone to breaking and reduced maintenance costs.


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The V6 and V8 are basically the same engine.

 

Which one is better?

 

Your thread title implies better = most reliable? Better means something different to everyone. (Power, fuel economy, weight, torque, sound…)

I seriously doubt we could discern a reliability difference between the V6 and V8 from posts here.

With stock tunes, the V6S produces the most power per liter (380HP/3L vs the V8’s 550HP/5L) which some might say means it’s working harder. But those are max HP numbers - how much time do you spend at max HP when driving?

The V8 is geared differently, so at the same highway speed, the V8 spins a bit slower than the V6, and appears to get better gas mileage (at the same speeds) as the V6. So you could argue that my V6 with 97k miles on it has fired more than a V8 with the same mileage would have, if you care about that level of minutiae. I don’t.

 

If you mean which one is more enjoyable, I think that depends on how you drive. I have the 6 in my F type and the 8 in my F Pace, most of my driving is around town say 0 - 80kmh and with a bit of winding road mountain driving on the weekend and I am conscious of copping fines. I think the 8 is so powerful that you have less time to enjoy it at street legal speeds whereas the 6 you can really play with at lowish speed, so for the F Type I think the 6 suits me more than the 8. The 8 is really effortless, the 6 feels a bit snappier to me.

 

The one that is better.

 

Between our Jags and Land Rovers I've had four of the AJ133 V8 over the past 15 years and three of the V6. Had two of each to over 100k miles with no major issues on any of them. Annual service and that's typically been all. Couple of water pumps, occasional plastic cooling pipe.
Have been here in the forum for well over 10 years and by my eye there isn't a meaningful reliability difference. As others have mentioned the engine basics (and many of the accessories and pipes etc) are the same

Just remember if you buy cheap and used, it's still a $70-120k (or more) sports car and parts and labor costs are commensurate with that (and not with the 20-30k that people are buying older ones for today
So - I would suggest it's less about which engine is more reliable. Less about miles. And more about whether it has been looked after. Regular servicing, ongoing maintenance, not abused. That's going to make much more of a difference. I bought my F Tyoe SVR used (6 years ago now) and I spent a year looking until I found what I wanted. More availability now, but I would shop carefully and look into its history and maintained in detail before buying

 

I've driven the 8-cylinder on the COTA track in Austin. I also had a 2016 V6S that I acquired new in 2017 and had about 127K miles on when it was lost on Labor Day.

The ONLY issue of note i had with mine was the weak clutch the 1st Gen came with. It was replaced at about 1,000 miles. But, they didn't do the flywheel. That got me a complete clutch/flywheel replacement around 70K miles under warranty.

Fuel mileage on the road was great- I was rocking 28+ on my most recent trip before the accident.

I wouldn't hesitate to get another IF it had all records. But I'm limited to the V6S since Jaguar never did like Aston Martin and paired a manual with the 8. The AM in manual WAS sweet...I just couldn't make the financial math work at the time...

 

[QUOTE=mbelanger;2871590]I've driven the 8-cylinder on the COTA track in Austin. I also had a 2016 V6S that I acquired new in 2017 and had about 127K miles on when it was lost on Labor Day.

The ONLY issue of note i had with mine was the weak clutch the 1st Gen came with. It was replaced at about 1,000 miles. But, they didn't do the flywheel. That got me a complete clutch/flywheel replacement around 70K miles under warranty.

Just in case it isn't obvious, the clutch issue only applied to the manual transmission cars, and was completely fixed with the latest spec clutch and flywheel.