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Old Nov 19, 2023 | 02:51 PM
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Updating the navigation map. Free??


 
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Old Nov 19, 2023 | 03:13 PM
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At which MY did Jaguar fit Pivi Pro to the F-Type? And why is the downloader only for Windoze and Macs?
 
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Old Nov 20, 2023 | 08:24 AM
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Looks like the update goes to a flashdrive/standard USB on desktop/laptop then plugged into car's USB.

A bit of a concern... some awkward English grammar.. hopefully it's not some file thats loaded with malware. Could run malware/antiV on it before installing from USb. Will have to brush up on my German.

Here's a link.. says that updates are available within warranty period.

https://www.jaguar.com/ownership/inf...tml#navigation
 
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Old Nov 20, 2023 | 08:43 AM
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I don't believe Pivi Pro was ever available on the F-Type, but this has been the update procedure since at least MY18 (with the updated hard button layout) in the US and it's free during the warranty period (five years), but after that it requires a subscription to Jaguar's InControl software platform. They offer monthly updates too, which is far more frequent than most other manufacturers.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2023 | 10:07 AM
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They do indeed do monthly updates whilst the subscription is active, but as I found to my cost on a road-trip through Portugal, those updates don't necessarily mean ALL the roads are up to date. Being sent up a road that had clearly been closed for quite a while, having already driven through 2 or 3 supposedly non-existent roundabouts, despite the maps being up to date was "interesting". It was also fun when the satnav tried to send us up a road that the maps had added yet didn't actually exist yet, it was still being carved out of the landscape! That said, I loathe Android Auto and can't be bothered plugging my phone in most times, so I tend to stick with the built-in satnav as, 99% of the time, it works just fine.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2023 | 07:23 AM
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The Apple Carplay/Android auto gadget upgrade for me was the solution - lets one use those platforms where the maps are as up to date (and traffic and road hazards in the case of at lease Waze) as possible. Have not used the car's nav in years....don't miss it. I'd use the phone on a window mount even if I lacked the gadget integrating things...it is that much better.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2023 | 04:29 PM
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They do indeed do monthly updates whilst the subscription is active, but as I found to my cost on a road-trip through Portugal, those updates don't necessarily mean ALL the roads are up to date. Being sent up a road that had clearly been closed for quite a while, having already driven through 2 or 3 supposedly non-existent roundabouts, despite the maps being up to date was "interesting". It was also fun when the satnav tried to send us up a road that the maps had added yet didn't actually exist yet, it was still being carved out of the landscape! That said, I loathe Android Auto and can't be bothered plugging my phone in most times, so I tend to stick with the built-in satnav as, 99% of the time, it works just fine.
As a follow-up to this, the Map Downloader tool appears to have been updated recently to now insist that the USB drive is FAT32 format - it used to be quite happy using my exFAT formatted stick. That wouldn't normally be a problem except you can't format USB sticks >32GB in Windows as FAT32, and a 32GB USB stick isn't large enough. I ended up trying 3 different utliities to find one that worked and that has now formatted my, previously working, 64GB stick as FAT32. The map downloader tool was happy then to use the USB stick again.

I do wonder sometimes if organisations ever bother to test stuff before they make fundamental changes like this. How the average person in the street is supposed to cope with this I have no idea. And I also have to question why this change was made. I've been updating the maps perfectly fine through the InControl Map Downloader utlity for the last 3½ years onto this USB stick - the software never quibbled about its exFAT partition and nor did the car.

Mind you, this has still been a breeze compared to the 2021 Toyota my father owns. That car only has USB 2.0 ports (yes, USB 2.0 in 2021) and the whole package is a series of ISO files totalling 15GB now, which the software opens live on the USB stick and then extracts the contents to the in-car memory. It takes nearly 2 hours and the engine has to be running the entire time or you risk flattening the main battery (I got a low battery warning 60% of the way into the process the first time I tried). You can do a 'quick' over-the-air update, but that one wipes out all the speed cameras and other useful info.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2023 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Cluck
As a follow-up to this, the Map Downloader tool appears to have been updated recently to now insist that the USB drive is FAT32 format - it used to be quite happy using my exFAT formatted stick. That wouldn't normally be a problem except you can't format USB sticks >32GB in Windows as FAT32, and a 32GB USB stick isn't large enough. I ended up trying 3 different utliities to find one that worked and that has now formatted my, previously working, 64GB stick as FAT32. The map downloader tool was happy then to use the USB stick again.

I do wonder sometimes if organisations ever bother to test stuff before they make fundamental changes like this. How the average person in the street is supposed to cope with this I have no idea. And I also have to question why this change was made. I've been updating the maps perfectly fine through the InControl Map Downloader utlity for the last 3½ years onto this USB stick - the software never quibbled about its exFAT partition and nor did the car.
I'm very surprised the car could read exFAT at all, as it's usually the receiving device with an older/more primitive onboard OS that has the limitation and not the PC. I've always used FAT32 sticks to do the updates since 2020, and I have a 512GB stick in the car at all times with my music collection and if it's not formatted in FAT32 (with a 3rd party utility) the car won't recognize it.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2023 | 04:33 AM
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Tis very odd as I say, the same memory stick has been used for the last 3½ years without a hitch and it's the only thing I use the stick for - I updated just a couple of months ago and haven't touched the memory stick since. Just thought it worth a mention in case it catches anybody else out
 
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