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Old 04-18-2015, 04:33 AM
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Picking up my new F Type on Monday, and after the delays, frustration (and now growing excitement) I was brought back down to earth yesterday when arranging my insurance, and was told that the car has to be kept in a locked garage overnight.

Wasn't expecting this, but has got me thinking about security, and read an article here in the UK about a huge increase in the theft of high-value cars, and the Police in london recommending that owners of "expensive" cars fit an old-fashioned steering lock as a deterrent - the technology exist to by-pass modern security systems all too easily.

So wondering what you do, and what you would recommend, to protect your own F type?

Grateful for advice, thoughts, or comments.
 
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Originally Posted by kevinuk
Picking up my new F Type on Monday, and after the delays, frustration (and now growing excitement) I was brought back down to earth yesterday when arranging my insurance, and was told that the car has to be kept in a locked garage overnight.

Wasn't expecting this, but has got me thinking about security, and read an article here in the UK about a huge increase in the theft of high-value cars, and the Police in london recommending that owners of "expensive" cars fit an old-fashioned steering lock as a deterrent - the technology exist to by-pass modern security systems all too easily.

So wondering what you do, and what you would recommend, to protect your own F type?

Grateful for advice, thoughts, or comments.
Mine is in a locked garage that is also wired to our home security system. Sitting to the Jag's left is a 67 hemi Plymouth GTX. When we are away, we have slider locks to secure the two large garage doors.
 
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I'd ask them what do I need to do to protect the car? Disable the OBD port?
 

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Reading around the internet about modern car security and the vulnerability of RF handshaking/links etc used with new cars, I decided to mitigate some of the theft risk by going normal instead of Keyless entry on my new F.

It seems thieves are very good at grabbing the code that is being sent from your fob/car as it 'talks' to it with keyless entry and of course it's a lot more difficult to obtain a snapshot when you operate the keyfob with conventional remote unlocking.

I always park another car in front of the Jag.
Also I have it rigged to the home security system and PIR lights
 
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Reading around the internet about modern car security and the vulnerability of RF handshaking/links etc used with new cars, I decided to mitigate some of the theft risk by going normal instead of Keyless entry on my new F. It seems thieves are very good at grabbing the code that is being sent from your fob/car as it 'talks' to it with keyless entry and of course it's a lot more difficult to obtain a snapshot when you operate the keyfob with conventional remote unlocking. I always park another car in front of the Jag. Also I have it rigged to the home security system and PIR lights
This won't help too much. The best security is a GPS tracker with a proximity fob. If someone without the fob drives the car it activates the tracker and notifies you or the police directly. The catch is that if you say leave the car for service you must either disable this or leave the proximity fob in the car or it will be activated. I used to worry about this stuff in Miami. Since I moved Its become a non issue I live in a much more secure and low crime area. Plus car theft from private garage is rare.
 
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This won't help too much. The best security is a GPS tracker with a proximity fob. If someone without the fob drives the car it activates the tracker and notifies you or the police directly. The catch is that if you say leave the car for service you must either disable this or leave the proximity fob in the car or it will be activated. I used to worry about this stuff in Miami. Since I moved Its become a non issue I live in a much more secure and low crime area. Plus car theft from private garage is rare.
I think a system with these features is standard on the 2016s with the InControl updates.
 
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+1, I have on two of my cars and it works great.
 
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Smith and Wesson is an "insurance security" company
 
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Smith and Wesson is an "insurance security" company
He's in the UK, they've already taken their guns away. Like they've been trying to do here for the last 6 years.
 
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Originally Posted by kevinuk
Picking up my new F Type on Monday, and after the delays, frustration (and now growing excitement) I was brought back down to earth yesterday when arranging my insurance, and was told that the car has to be kept in a locked garage overnight.

Wasn't expecting this, but has got me thinking about security, and read an article here in the UK about a huge increase in the theft of high-value cars, and the Police in london recommending that owners of "expensive" cars fit an old-fashioned steering lock as a deterrent - the technology exist to by-pass modern security systems all too easily.

So wondering what you do, and what you would recommend, to protect your own F type?

Grateful for advice, thoughts, or comments.
No requirement for a locked garage over here, but a full Tracker system was needed to get anything more than Third Party Insurance.

I note that the system Jaguar offer can be supplied and fitted by car security specialists for a little more than 1/3rd the price that Jaguar charge
 
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Originally Posted by SoCalJagS
+1, I have on two of my cars and it works great.
My JLR dealer puts LoJack on all of their inventory as soon as each vehicle is delivered to their lot, so I had no choice but to pay for it. The contract cost of keeping it continuously active is minimal.

However, I have to ask when you say, "it works great," do you have any personal experience with need to use it on previous cars?
 
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Old 04-18-2015, 10:16 AM
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He's in the UK, they've already taken their guns away. Like they've been trying to do here for the last 6 years.
SoCalJags: You'll be pleased to hear that your first sentence is not true. In the UK at least. But I'm guessing that what appears on the TV News in the US may be a different form of truth backed up by opinion masqueding as fact...
 
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Originally Posted by Foosh
My JLR dealer puts LoJack on all of their inventory as soon as each vehicle is delivered to their lot, so I had no choice but to pay for it. The contract cost of keeping it continuously active is minimal.

However, I have to ask when you say, "it works great," do you have any personal experience with need to use it on previous cars?
Wonder if they still do this for 2016 models, since they basically come with GPS tracking via the Aps
 
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Old 04-18-2015, 10:23 AM
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SoCalJags: You'll be pleased to hear that your first sentence is not true. In the UK at least. But I'm guessing that what appears on the TV News in the US may be a different form of truth backed up by opinion masqueding as fact...
I thought that even the UK Olympic pistol shooting team has to train outside of the UK because legal handguns are banned. Of course the criminals do not have legal handguns and use illegal ones all the time - even in the UK.

Go figure - criminals and gang members not obeying the law. What's the world coming to!

However, coming back on topic - car with the old laser cut key were probably harder to steal. I park indoors. However, I do have concerns when I go to Toronto for the weekend and park in a parking lot. Part of me wishes for the old laser cut key.
 

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Old 04-18-2015, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Stohlen
Wonder if they still do this for 2016 models, since they basically come with GPS tracking via the Aps
Probably, since they told me it was Penske Auto Group policy for all Penske dealers. LoJack is old-school technology, and I predict it will shutdown in 10 years or so, just as LORAN was eventually shutdown for maritime navigation about a decade after GPS became ubiquitous.

In order for LoJack to be effective, local law enforcement must have receiving equipment in their patrol vehicles, and I would guess they'll eventually stop equipping now that GPS can locate a vehicle much quicker and more precisely.
 
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Old 04-18-2015, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Foosh
My JLR dealer puts LoJack on all of their inventory as soon as each vehicle is delivered to their lot, so I had no choice but to pay for it. The contract cost of keeping it continuously active is minimal.

However, I have to ask when you say, "it works great," do you have any personal experience with need to use it on previous cars?
Because I've tested it. I've driven without the dongle and it immediately phones my home, cell and emails me that my car has been moved.
 
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Old 04-18-2015, 11:27 AM
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OK, thanks.

I don't have a "dongle" and can only guess what you're talking about. I just looked at the instructions for the LoJack system that came on my car, and it requires a police report and phone call to LoJack if I discover my car missing. After that, they activate the system which is linked to the VIN.

Sounds like you may have the option of knowing it's been stolen a little sooner, but recovering your car still requires law enforcement to be able to track it down with LoJack equipment in their cars. That's what I meant when asking why you said it works well.

I actually have mixed feelings about this. If my car is stolen, I'm pretty sure I don't want it back. Of course, the insurance companies feel differently, so they like it.
 
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Old 04-18-2015, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Foosh
OK, thanks.

I don't have a "dongle" and can only guess what you're talking about. I just looked at the instructions for the LoJack system that came on my car, and it requires a police report and phone call to LoJack if I discover my car missing. After that, they activate the system which is linked to the VIN.

Sounds like you may have the option of knowing it's been stolen a little sooner, but recovering your car still requires law enforcement to be able to track it down with LoJack equipment in their cars. That's what I meant when asking why you said it works well.

I actually have mixed feelings about this. If my car is stolen, I'm pretty sure I don't want it back. Of course, the insurance companies feel differently, so they like it.
You can update your LoJack and get the dongles (set of 2) It's not that much more, I know what you mean, my other car doesn't have one. They will come too you to install too.
 
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