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Old Jan 4, 2024 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bfrank1972
To be clear however, I run 15mm spacers on a lowered F-Type R RWD and I detect no negative effects at all.
That's why the short and practical answer is no 😎
 

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Old Jan 5, 2024 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dangoesfast
Short, practical answer: no, just track.

Long and technically more correct answer: yes, but in miniscule amounts that don't matter unless you're an F1 team. One effect is that whenever your hub faces aren't exactly perpendicular to the ground plane (i.e. if your camber angle is not
Originally Posted by bfrank1972
yep, spacers increase scrub radius, which could possibly affect front end grip in tighter turns as well steering feel and effort. Also could potentially affect wear on bearings. To be clear however, I run 15mm spacers on a lowered F-Type R RWD and I detect no negative effects at all. If it were a fine tuned race car under competitive track conditions... maybe? But it's definitely not that - and it makes the lowered cars look much better! Go for it
Thanks dangoesfast and bfrank1972-- some very good input and clarifications there. That was my assumption that the impact was fairly minimal.

I just pickup up a 2014 V8-S that has spacers on and still trying to determine their exact widths. But they seem pretty minimal. What is pretty crazy are the tire widths on the Tornado 20" wheels-- 315's in the rears and 265's in the front (Nitto NT555 G2's)! Looks awesome-- definitely some serious meats and profile in the back. But the jury is out as to performance, as I haven't had enough warm weather to drive it to see exactly how the setup handles. I have my concerns....
 

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Old Aug 28, 2024 | 05:48 PM
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Hello OzXFR, or should I say G'day!

I am thinking about adding the Teeze 15mm Adapter/Spacers to my 2016 F-Type, just wanted to check in with you and see if you are still happy with them. I hear all sorts of sites saying don't do it, Scrub radius, wheel bearing wear, torque issues. I have the carbon "Blade" 20" wheels so there shouldn't be an issue with the OEM studs. Also was thinking of switching from 295 P-Zero to the 305 Michelin PS4s.

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Old Aug 28, 2024 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by F-Type R Man
Hello OzXFR, or should I say G'day!

I am thinking about adding the Teeze 15mm Adapter/Spacers to my 2016 F-Type, just wanted to check in with you and see if you are still happy with them. I hear all sorts of sites saying don't do it, Scrub radius, wheel bearing wear, torque issues. I have the carbon "Blade" 20" wheels so there shouldn't be an issue with the OEM studs. Also was thinking of switching from 295 P-Zero to the 305 Michelin PS4s.

Cheers!
Zero problems with the 15 mm Teeze spacers.
I recently experienced a minor problem with the 20 mm rear spacers (nothing to do with them being Teeze brand).
Driving on a crappy road at reasonable speed some occasional rubbing of the rear tyres on the wheel arches when hitting a sudden dip/hollow in the road.
I'm talking a really crappy piece of road (the last 25 km of the 50 km stretch of the Princes Highway between Tailem Bend and Meningie here in South Oz) with masses of bumps and dips.
Only going some 120 km/h but the road is so bad (and very bendy) that it's not worth going any quicker, and most times I am held up by a snail or two doing 100 km/h or less as there is not one single overtaking lane either way on the entire 50 km stretch and too many bends to overtake safely.
The rubbing is a combination of the bumps/hollows/dips, the inadequate rebound damping of the VAP lowering springs, and the 20 mm spacers pushing the tyres out maybe just a little too far.
In any event it only happens on such a crappy road at 100 km/h and above and it's only the very outside edges of the tyres touching briefly, so not a huge problem.
Also I need to fit new tyres soonish which I suspect will exacerbate the problem (due to the larger rolling diameter of new tyres vs worn tyres) so I will go back to 15 mm spacers on the rear when I do.
Moral of the story - nothing wrong with Teeze spacers but 20 mm on the rear can cause rubbing on crap roads when combined with lowering springs, and in your case rear 305s will make it worse/more likely (I still have stock 295s fitted).
 

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Old Aug 29, 2024 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by OzXFR
Zero problems with the 15 mm Teeze spacers.
I recently experienced a minor problem with the 20 mm rear spacers (nothing to do with them being Teeze brand).
Driving on a crappy road at reasonable speed some occasional rubbing of the rear tyres on the wheel arches when hitting a sudden dip/hollow in the road.
I'm talking a really crappy piece of road (the last 25 km of the 50 km stretch of the Princes Highway between Tailem Bend and Meningie here in South Oz) with masses of bumps and dips.
Only going some 120 km/h but the road is so bad (and very bendy) that it's not worth going any quicker, and most times I am held up by a snail or two doing 100 km/h or less as there is not one single overtaking lane either way on the entire 50 km stretch and too many bends to overtake safely.
The rubbing is a combination of the bumps/hollows/dips, the inadequate rebound damping of the VAP lowering springs, and the 20 mm spacers pushing the tyres out maybe just a little too far.
In any event it only happens on such a crappy road at 100 km/h and above and it's only the very outside edges of the tyres touching briefly, so not a huge problem.
Also I need to fit new tyres soonish which I suspect will exacerbate the problem (due to the larger rolling diameter of new tyres vs worn tyres) so I will go back to 15 mm spacers on the rear when I do.
Moral of the story - nothing wrong with Teeze spacers but 20 mm on the rear can cause rubbing on crap roads when combined with lowering springs, and in your case rear 305s will make it worse/more likely (I still have stock 295s fitted).
Thanks for the feedback. Good news on the 15mm spacers, bad news on your roads. I live in the Kansas City metro area and there are some absolutely terrible roads around here too, akin to a war zone, so I'm going to go with the 15mms all around. I am not planning on adjusting, or lowering the suspension for that reason, I definitely don't want any wheel-arch rub. I may also hold off on getting the 305s on the rear wheels to see how the spacers work out before looking at that scenario.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2024 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by F-Type R Man
Thanks for the feedback. Good news on the 15mm spacers, bad news on your roads. I live in the Kansas City metro area and there are some absolutely terrible roads around here too, akin to a war zone, so I'm going to go with the 15mms all around. I am not planning on adjusting, or lowering the suspension for that reason, I definitely don't want any wheel-arch rub. I may also hold off on getting the 305s on the rear wheels to see how the spacers work out before looking at that scenario.
Yep, I forgot to add that 20 mm spacers on the rear would be overkill with 305 tyres and 15 mm spacers would be plenty with those tyres and give the exact same "push out" as 295 tyres with 20 mm spacers. You should have no problems with 15 mm spacers providing you don't lower the car.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2024 | 11:56 AM
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Excellent. I will go with that. Thanks for the input. I'll let you know how it goes. Cheers.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2024 | 11:43 AM
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I tried to fit the TEEZE 15mm spacers and unfortunately they would not fit cleanly on hub-centric hole, it was too small. I am going to return them and look for another brand.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2024 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by F-Type R Man
I tried to fit the TEEZE 15mm spacers and unfortunately they would not fit cleanly on hub-centric hole, it was too small. I am going to return them and look for another brand.
I just ordered the VAP’s…. Hopefully no figment issues..
 
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Old Sep 4, 2024 | 11:59 AM
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Let me know, and if you don't mind posting a link, that would be great.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2024 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by F-Type R Man
Let me know, and if you don't mind posting a link, that would be great.

 
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Old Sep 4, 2024 | 03:46 PM
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Thanks! Do you have the 20" carbon fibre "Blade" wheel rims? Just wondering if the recessed area on the back of the rim will the allow the stud / bolts fit without grinding them down. The TEEZE spacer specs were the same bore measurement, 63.4mm but it just wouldn't "sit" correctly without rocking.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2024 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by F-Type R Man
Thanks! Do you have the 20" carbon fibre "Blade" wheel rims? Just wondering if the recessed area on the back of the rim will the allow the stud / bolts fit without grinding them down. The TEEZE spacer specs were the same bore measurement, 63.4mm but it just wouldn't "sit" correctly without rocking.
I am no expert, but I believe I read that the blade rims do not need any modifications
I have these
 
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Old Sep 4, 2024 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by F-Type R Man
Thanks! Do you have the 20" carbon fibre "Blade" wheel rims? Just wondering if the recessed area on the back of the rim will the allow the stud / bolts fit without grinding them down. The TEEZE spacer specs were the same bore measurement, 63.4mm but it just wouldn't "sit" correctly without rocking.
Yep, confirmed many times by myself and others that the Blade wheels fit over 15 mm spacers fit no worries with zero grinding or trimming of the wheel studs.
Funny about the Teeze spacers, I have fitted three sets (2 x 15 mm and 1 x 20 mm) and they all fitted perfectly.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2024 | 09:01 PM
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I was with the tech and when he tried to put the Blade rim on the Teeze 15mm Adapter/Spacers and it just did not align on the collar (?) properly. I may try another shop before I look for another brand. Maybe I got a bad set. The shop seemed reluctant to fit none stock equipment, maybe they "tried" not try to make it work on purpose, but I don't think it should require too much force to get the rim on. or am I wrong?. I don't have the tools, or confidence to do it myself.
 

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Old Sep 4, 2024 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by F-Type R Man
I was with the tech and when he tried to put the Blade rim on the Teeze 15mm Adapter/Spacers and it just did not align on the collar (?) properly. I may try another shop before I look for another brand. Maybe I got a bad set. The shop seemed reluctant to fit none stock equipment, maybe they "tried" not try to make it work on purpose, but I don't think it should require too much force to get the rim on. or am I wrong?. I don't have the tools, or confidence to do it myself.
Not sure if you are saying that the hubs/rims on the spacers are too small (ie the wheel goes on but it wobbles too much) or they are too big and your tech just can't get the wheels to fit over the hubs/rims.
It can be a bit fiddly fitting the wheels back over the rims/hubs of the spacers, they are quite a tight fit but it should not take any force to fit them nice and flat and even with no wobble, you just have to line them up perfectly.
It was only a few days ago now (six days to be precise!) that I swapped out the rear 20 mm Teeze spacers for the previous 15 mm Teeze spacers and I had zero problems, other than the fact that those rear wheel/tyre combos weigh a ton and I'm not as strong as I used to be!

Edit - just a thought - maybe the insides of the wheel centre bores have some crud or rust or build up on them which can be cleaned off and then the wheels will fit?
 

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Old Sep 5, 2024 | 11:46 AM
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I appreciate the input, yes there is some material build up, but it is very slight. I guess I'm also having second thoughts about going through with this modification now. The Mrs is not too thrilled about the idea either. As a designer, by trade, I struggle with changing the original Callum design, and I took another look at the set up I have and I think it looks great as it is. Then there is issue with my insurance and coverage/liability. The roads here are generally not good so I'm not going to lower it either. I may just go with the 305s on the tyres which need replacing and I think they will look great. That being said I may revisit the spacers in the future.
 

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Old Sep 8, 2024 | 11:32 AM
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My 2015 R was parked next to the same the other day w/o spacers and must say w/o them ........ in technical terminology ........ sucks. Still to this day I get car compliments everywhere I drive her. A 9-year old car now and most believe she is new and/or want to know who makes it.


 
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Originally Posted by Burt Gummer
My 2015 R was parked next to the same the other day w/o spacers and must say w/o them ........ in technical terminology ........ sucks. Still to this day I get car compliments everywhere I drive her. A 9-year old car now and most believe she is new and/or want to know who makes it.

Are you on stock height? I must say, your car looks amazing and I am not that fan of Salsa. But wow.
 
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