Supercharge whine....is it just me?
When I first purchased the 2018 F-Type R, my wife noticed the whine of the supercharger the first time she was in the car without the radio on. Up until that point, I heard it but paid little attention to it given what I knew it was doing and what the car was capable of in terms of horsepower.
Now however, it seems to dominate the sound in the car even when the radio is on. Is it my imagination or can something happen that would cause the supercharger to whine louder?
Thanks
Bob
Now however, it seems to dominate the sound in the car even when the radio is on. Is it my imagination or can something happen that would cause the supercharger to whine louder?
Thanks
Bob
Are you sure it's the supercharger? The symposer also adds a kind of whining noise although it's not as high pitched as supercharger whine. A diff issue can also produce a high pitched whining.
There is no down side to defeating the symposer. Do a search here for the thread about it. Basically, the symposer pipes audio noise from the intake into your firewall.
Isn't the symposer funneling low frequency sounds to make the exhaust sound more impressive? What I'm hearing is a more high pitched whining sound that increases in loudness with RPM's.
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I tend to find I can hear whine until about 4000rpm when the exhaust noise takes over. Also you hear the whine more with the windows up. But it isnt like a hellcat whine, it is more like the whistle you get from turbos.
I plan on taking the car into the dealer for two other annoying issues and will bring this up too. The two other issues are 1) The "SOS System Functionality is Limited" warning light is constantly on, and 2) regardless of where the key fob is on my person, the car refuses to start saying that the remote key is not in the car. This happens even after I replace the battery in the remote. i have to hold the key up under the dash on the left side to start the car.
I plan on taking the car into the dealer for two other annoying issues and will bring this up too. The two other issues are 1) The "SOS System Functionality is Limited" warning light is constantly on, and 2) regardless of where the key fob is on my person, the car refuses to start saying that the remote key is not in the car. This happens even after I replace the battery in the remote. i have to hold the key up under the dash on the left side to start the car.
Thought it best to refresh this thread with the latest I have learned about this topic from now direct experience. Recently I had my 2014 V8S in to preemptively replace the old coolant pipes to the new ones. This of course necessitated the removal of the supercharger as part of the process. When I got the car back I noticed a distinct increase in the supercharger whine which I never really noticed much in the past. I also noted that the deceleration pops and crackles had disappeared. Of course I got concerned and took it back today to my independent shop to have them check it out. I will also note that my engine cover has been off for over 5 years.
1. The whine definitely comes from the supercharger and appears around 2500rpms and disappears on shift or about 3500rpms whichever comes first.
2. It’s distinctly louder in dynamic and sport modes but does exist in normal drive mode.
3. I worked with the tech after an initial drive to show him and we popped the hood and started routing around and the first thing noted was the removal of the sound reading material that runs on either side of the supercharger. They had removed it when doing the coolant pipe work because it retains moisture from the vents and was corroding the hold down screws of the supercharger which they replaced
4. The material holding water is a known problem with the AJ engine especially if the engine cover is not in place which helps to shed the water away from that foam.
5. That material is a noice reduction effort that quiets the whine of the SC.
6. The pops and crackles have become to come back because he reset the “learning mode” for the transmission and ecu so it is relearning my driving style which is how the car helps the overruns happen. This is unrelated to the whine but was an after effect of the service and the car sitting in storage.
Bottom line lessons:
1. If you decide to remove the engine cover keep a close eye on the sound deadening material on either side of the supercharger when you wash the car or get in a heavy rain storm that allows water into the engine bay. Check often for moisture.
2. Be prepared To remove the material when you have your SC go through routine maintenance and you may want to remove it if wet and check the hold down screws for corrosion.
3. The whine will be more noticeable when this material is removed. You can either live with it or have the material replaced and take your chances. Or put the engine cover back on as well.
4. The symposer is definitely passing both high and low frequency sounds into the cabin. We did a check while testing for the whine while running up the rpm’s while we had it in the shop. Only option there is to pull the supposed out.
5. For those of you recently purchasing a used Ftype and your hearing that whine and wonder why you may want to see if the sound material had been previously removed from the supercharger.
As for me, I’m keeping the cover off, the sound deadening material out and enjoying all the sounds my cat makes.
1. The whine definitely comes from the supercharger and appears around 2500rpms and disappears on shift or about 3500rpms whichever comes first.
2. It’s distinctly louder in dynamic and sport modes but does exist in normal drive mode.
3. I worked with the tech after an initial drive to show him and we popped the hood and started routing around and the first thing noted was the removal of the sound reading material that runs on either side of the supercharger. They had removed it when doing the coolant pipe work because it retains moisture from the vents and was corroding the hold down screws of the supercharger which they replaced
4. The material holding water is a known problem with the AJ engine especially if the engine cover is not in place which helps to shed the water away from that foam.
5. That material is a noice reduction effort that quiets the whine of the SC.
6. The pops and crackles have become to come back because he reset the “learning mode” for the transmission and ecu so it is relearning my driving style which is how the car helps the overruns happen. This is unrelated to the whine but was an after effect of the service and the car sitting in storage.
Bottom line lessons:
1. If you decide to remove the engine cover keep a close eye on the sound deadening material on either side of the supercharger when you wash the car or get in a heavy rain storm that allows water into the engine bay. Check often for moisture.
2. Be prepared To remove the material when you have your SC go through routine maintenance and you may want to remove it if wet and check the hold down screws for corrosion.
3. The whine will be more noticeable when this material is removed. You can either live with it or have the material replaced and take your chances. Or put the engine cover back on as well.
4. The symposer is definitely passing both high and low frequency sounds into the cabin. We did a check while testing for the whine while running up the rpm’s while we had it in the shop. Only option there is to pull the supposed out.
5. For those of you recently purchasing a used Ftype and your hearing that whine and wonder why you may want to see if the sound material had been previously removed from the supercharger.
As for me, I’m keeping the cover off, the sound deadening material out and enjoying all the sounds my cat makes.
I plan on taking the car into the dealer for two other annoying issues and will bring this up too. The two other issues are 1) The "SOS System Functionality is Limited" warning light is constantly on, and 2) regardless of where the key fob is on my person, the car refuses to start saying that the remote key is not in the car. This happens even after I replace the battery in the remote. i have to hold the key up under the dash on the left side to start the car.
Yes, I meant to come back and report on their supercharger findings. They told me that the idler pulleys bearings were shot. They replaced the pulley and the belt….voila no more whine. And to boot my gas mileage which had declined for a few months went right back up to where it had been.
Yes, I meant to come back and report on their supercharger findings. They told me that the idler pulleys bearings were shot. They replaced the pulley and the belt….voila no more whine. And to boot my gas mileage which had declined for a few months went right back up to where it had been.
Some years ago, a number of owners (including me) determined that the trip computer is about 2mpg high. Don’t know if it’s better now.
My fuel gauge stopped working last year, so I’m always displaying trip A (miles since last fill up) rather than mileage.
My fuel gauge stopped working last year, so I’m always displaying trip A (miles since last fill up) rather than mileage.
That is exactly about the difference I see too. I've always been kind of **** about keeping track of my mileage and never trust any cars computer to tell me, since I think they all lie on purpose. I use an app on my iPhone called Fuelly and its very accurate.
Thought it best to refresh this thread with the latest I have learned about this topic from now direct experience. Recently I had my 2014 V8S in to preemptively replace the old coolant pipes to the new ones. This of course necessitated the removal of the supercharger as part of the process. When I got the car back I noticed a distinct increase in the supercharger whine which I never really noticed much in the past. I also noted that the deceleration pops and crackles had disappeared. Of course I got concerned and took it back today to my independent shop to have them check it out. I will also note that my engine cover has been off for over 5 years.
1. The whine definitely comes from the supercharger and appears around 2500rpms and disappears on shift or about 3500rpms whichever comes first.
2. It’s distinctly louder in dynamic and sport modes but does exist in normal drive mode.
3. I worked with the tech after an initial drive to show him and we popped the hood and started routing around and the first thing noted was the removal of the sound reading material that runs on either side of the supercharger. They had removed it when doing the coolant pipe work because it retains moisture from the vents and was corroding the hold down screws of the supercharger which they replaced
4. The material holding water is a known problem with the AJ engine especially if the engine cover is not in place which helps to shed the water away from that foam.
5. That material is a noice reduction effort that quiets the whine of the SC.
6. The pops and crackles have become to come back because he reset the “learning mode” for the transmission and ecu so it is relearning my driving style which is how the car helps the overruns happen. This is unrelated to the whine but was an after effect of the service and the car sitting in storage.
Bottom line lessons:
1. If you decide to remove the engine cover keep a close eye on the sound deadening material on either side of the supercharger when you wash the car or get in a heavy rain storm that allows water into the engine bay. Check often for moisture.
2. Be prepared To remove the material when you have your SC go through routine maintenance and you may want to remove it if wet and check the hold down screws for corrosion.
3. The whine will be more noticeable when this material is removed. You can either live with it or have the material replaced and take your chances. Or put the engine cover back on as well.
4. The symposer is definitely passing both high and low frequency sounds into the cabin. We did a check while testing for the whine while running up the rpm’s while we had it in the shop. Only option there is to pull the supposed out.
5. For those of you recently purchasing a used Ftype and your hearing that whine and wonder why you may want to see if the sound material had been previously removed from the supercharger.
As for me, I’m keeping the cover off, the sound deadening material out and enjoying all the sounds my cat makes.
1. The whine definitely comes from the supercharger and appears around 2500rpms and disappears on shift or about 3500rpms whichever comes first.
2. It’s distinctly louder in dynamic and sport modes but does exist in normal drive mode.
3. I worked with the tech after an initial drive to show him and we popped the hood and started routing around and the first thing noted was the removal of the sound reading material that runs on either side of the supercharger. They had removed it when doing the coolant pipe work because it retains moisture from the vents and was corroding the hold down screws of the supercharger which they replaced
4. The material holding water is a known problem with the AJ engine especially if the engine cover is not in place which helps to shed the water away from that foam.
5. That material is a noice reduction effort that quiets the whine of the SC.
6. The pops and crackles have become to come back because he reset the “learning mode” for the transmission and ecu so it is relearning my driving style which is how the car helps the overruns happen. This is unrelated to the whine but was an after effect of the service and the car sitting in storage.
Bottom line lessons:
1. If you decide to remove the engine cover keep a close eye on the sound deadening material on either side of the supercharger when you wash the car or get in a heavy rain storm that allows water into the engine bay. Check often for moisture.
2. Be prepared To remove the material when you have your SC go through routine maintenance and you may want to remove it if wet and check the hold down screws for corrosion.
3. The whine will be more noticeable when this material is removed. You can either live with it or have the material replaced and take your chances. Or put the engine cover back on as well.
4. The symposer is definitely passing both high and low frequency sounds into the cabin. We did a check while testing for the whine while running up the rpm’s while we had it in the shop. Only option there is to pull the supposed out.
5. For those of you recently purchasing a used Ftype and your hearing that whine and wonder why you may want to see if the sound material had been previously removed from the supercharger.
As for me, I’m keeping the cover off, the sound deadening material out and enjoying all the sounds my cat makes.
What is this sound reading material on both sides of the supercharger you're talking about? If you can circle on a picture or something that would really help. I have the problem that my whine is non existent even with intake cones installed from Mina gallery. The rep told me my symposer is the reason for the supercharger whine to be non existent so I am needing to check the tubes but I came across your reply and im curious and wanting to remove these sound materials to increase whine. Removing my engine cover did nothing so anything to get more whine without engine deprivation is something I'd like to do.
Hello,
What is this sound reading material on both sides of the supercharger you're talking about? If you can circle on a picture or something that would really help. I have the problem that my whine is non existent even with intake cones installed from Mina gallery. The rep told me my symposer is the reason for the supercharger whine to be non existent so I am needing to check the tubes but I came across your reply and im curious and wanting to remove these sound materials to increase whine. Removing my engine cover did nothing so anything to get more whine without engine deprivation is something I'd like to do.
What is this sound reading material on both sides of the supercharger you're talking about? If you can circle on a picture or something that would really help. I have the problem that my whine is non existent even with intake cones installed from Mina gallery. The rep told me my symposer is the reason for the supercharger whine to be non existent so I am needing to check the tubes but I came across your reply and im curious and wanting to remove these sound materials to increase whine. Removing my engine cover did nothing so anything to get more whine without engine deprivation is something I'd like to do.
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