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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 04:55 PM
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Unfortunately I'm still having issues with my TPMS sensors. Here's the full story:

I wanted a winter set of wheels and tires, so I ordered 19" black/diamond-turned Orbits from the local dealership and ordered tires & sensors from a local tire shop. The tire shop assumed 433 MHz sensors and installed them (which I thought would probably be fine after reading this thread), but surprisingly it turns out I have 315 MHz sensors. This was confirmed after giving my VIN to the local dealership and having the tire shop read the signal from my original/summer set of wheels & tires. They replaced the 433's with 315's free of charge, but the sensors still won't sync.

I went on a nice long drive with the 433's (which obviously didn't work), and did the same with the 315's (which haven't worked for some reason). The tire shop has read and confirmed the currently-installed 315's are functional according to their scanner, but my car has not sync'd with a single one of them.

So, my question for forum-goers, is if you've got an aftermarket set of sensors, which ones did you end up with? From the invoice, I believe the tire shop installed VDO 315 MHz sensors. It sounds like perhaps some of you went with Autel; any luck there?

At this point I am faced with either a) ordering a different set of 315's myself and having the tire shop swap them out, b) pay the extreme markup for OEM sensors and have the tire shop swap them out, or c) go to the dealership and deal with their usual run-around of "oh those aren't OEM so of course they didn't work" and "that'll be $100 per wheel to diagnose the problem" blah blah blah.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 08:13 PM
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For 315 Mhz, this is the OEM part number: C2D21601
Click on the link. There's a new one on eBay for $25.


The part number for 433Mhz is C2D43636.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 12:42 PM
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Thanks Unhingd.

I called my local dealer and they stated that C2D21601 has been superseded by C2D38979. I decided to order C2D21601 from Jaguar of Las Vegas online, due to a lower price and no sales tax applied; their interface requires you to enter your VIN for cross-reference, so we'll see if they end up shipping C2D38979 to me (as their website said that part was *not* compatible with 2016 F-Types).
 
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Old Mar 5, 2017 | 10:20 PM
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Despite ordering part C2D21601 from Jag of Las Vegas, they shipped me C2D38979 - so it appears to have truly been superseded. They did not balk at either part number in terms of compatibility when cross-checked with my VIN.

So, nonetheless, after having the tire shop swap in the official Jag TPMS sensors, they still have not sync'd with my car despite many miles of driving. So off to the dealership this week...
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 05:18 PM
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Just acquired a set of aftermarket wheels and had Tire Discounters install their 433 MHz TPMS sensors. I have a 2017 car. I drove the car home without a fault and the dash cluster was giving me a pressure reading when I reached my house (the OEM wheels were left behind at the shop, so I know it wasn't picking up those sensors). On my second trip out, after about 10 miles I got a TPMS fault, and despite turning the car off/on and driving another 15 miles, the fault hasn't gone away. Crap. Any suggestions?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Nati
Just acquired a set of aftermarket wheels and had Tire Discounters install their 433 MHz TPMS sensors. I have a 2017 car. I drove the car home without a fault and the dash cluster was giving me a pressure reading when I reached my house (the OEM wheels were left behind at the shop, so I know it wasn't picking up those sensors). On my second trip out, after about 10 miles I got a TPMS fault, and despite turning the car off/on and driving another 15 miles, the fault hasn't gone away. Crap. Any suggestions?
The fault should be telling you which wheel the car isn't reading. Take the car back to TD and have them resync that sensor. They sold you the sensor, so force them to make it work.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2017 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
The fault should be telling you which wheel the car isn't reading. Take the car back to TD and have them resync that sensor. They sold you the sensor, so force them to make it work.
Some additional info as the situation resolved itself. All four sensors were not reading initially. It took more than the reported 15 minutes of driving >12mph however. Probably 35-45 miles in total.

Unhingd, to clarify against your point for others though, I don't think various shops can do anything to "sync" their sensors with Jag's computer. On the contrary, the computer learns the sensor code (after a while, anyway). Nothing was programmed into the car at any point.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Nati
Some additional info as the situation resolved itself. All four sensors were not reading initially. It took more than the reported 15 minutes of driving >12mph however. Probably 35-45 miles in total.

Unhingd, to clarify against your point for others though, I don't think various shops can do anything to "sync" their sensors with Jag's computer. On the contrary, the computer learns the sensor code (after a while, anyway). Nothing was programmed into the car at any point.
I certainly know very little about TPMS systems, but watched my performance tire guy take a handheld device around to each tire (at the valve), enter which wheel he just scanned and then take it back to the cockpit and communicate with the system by placing it under the dashboard where the failsafe key scanner is. It was only after doing that, that everything would sync after the 15 minute drive. It would seem to me that, unless that type of procedure would occur, the Jag system would not know which tire has low pressure.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
I certainly know very little about TPMS systems, but watched my performance tire guy take a handheld device around to each tire (at the valve), enter which wheel he just scanned and then take it back to the cockpit and communicate with the system by placing it under the dashboard where the failsafe key scanner is. It was only after doing that, that everything would sync after the 15 minute drive. It would seem to me that, unless that type of procedure would occur, the Jag system would not know which tire has low pressure.
Sensors in the wheel arch pick up the strongest signal (I think).

At any rate, there's an old post from Foosh who bought pre-mounted tires/wheels/sensors from Midwest Wheel & Tire, bolted them on at home and off he went. That seems to confirm that the system has the ability to "learn" a sensor without any intervention from a technician.

Perhaps there is a manual way as well, such as you witnessed? Or perhaps that activity did nothing in the end, other than mimic the procedure for some other vehicles. Just speculating.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Nati
Sensors in the wheel arch pick up the strongest signal (I think).

At any rate, there's an old post from Foosh who bought pre-mounted tires/wheels/sensors from Midwest Wheel & Tire, bolted them on at home and off he went. That seems to confirm that the system has the ability to "learn" a sensor without any intervention from a technician.

Perhaps there is a manual way as well, such as you witnessed? Or perhaps that activity did nothing in the end, other than mimic the procedure for some other vehicles. Just speculating.
When I witnessed it, it was after a new sensor was installed and refused to communicate (20+ miles) until the shop did its thing. It's all voodoo to me.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2017 | 05:39 PM
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So here's a funny development: ended up taking my car to the dealership to get this nightmare resolved. They claimed part C2D38979 would not work in my car (despite superseding part C2D21601), and that I would need specifically part C2D21601. They managed to somehow order C2D21601, but those didn't work either!

My VIN indicated the car has 315 MHz sensors, but they resorted to physically accessing the central TPMS module and discovered it actually has a 433 MHz system! So, after ordering the (truly) correct TPMS sensors, installing them, and registering them with SDD, all is well.

Last thing to note: 433 MHz is what I originally had installed by the tire shop (just OE-compatible, not official Jag sensors), and those didn't work. The "drive for 15 minutes over 20mph" thing did not work at all, and according to my dealership the sensors must be registered with SDD. Perhaps there was a changeover between model-years at one point?
 
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 09:21 AM
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New member here. Glad I saw this post. Just ordered new tires & wheels last week and the invoice had 433MHz TPMS on it. After some research it appears VIN K15252 and onward have 433MHz making mine a 315MHz. Thanks for saving me some headaches.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by casper83
New member here. Glad I saw this post. Just ordered new tires & wheels last week and the invoice had 433MHz TPMS on it. After some research it appears VIN K15252 and onward have 433MHz making mine a 315MHz. Thanks for saving me some headaches.
My information shows that everything from K27309 was 433MHz.

Up to that VIN, they used 315MHz.
 

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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
My information shows that everything from K27309 was 433MHz.

Up to that VIN, they used 315MHz.
My information came from Jaguar's TSB JTB00385NAS1. I should mention this is for North American Specification (NAS).
 
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by casper83
My information came from Jaguar's TSB JTB00385NAS1. I should mention this is for North American Specification (NAS).
I believe all MY15s on this forum have reported they have 315MHz. The MY15 VINs are all well past K15000. My info for the specific VIN number comes from the online parts vendor catalogs.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
I believe all MY15s on this forum have reported they have 315MHz. The MY15 VINs are all well past K15000. My info for the specific VIN number comes from the online parts vendor catalogs.
Just sharing what I have found from published sources. FYI, I have MY15 and my VIN is K11029.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by casper83
Just sharing what I have found from published sources. FYI, I have MY15 and my VIN is K11029.
Very Odd.


Here's to add more confusion: Gleaning what I could from the JLR Reno Parts website, this is what they are showing


Upto K16099 C2D38979 315mhz
K16100 - K27308 C2D43636 433mhz
From K27309 C2D47173 433mhz


Best of luck to all.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2018 | 07:20 PM
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I have a 2016 F-Type R. Manufacturer in May 2015. VIN ending in K27000. Do I need the 315MHz or 433MHz sensors?
 
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Old Nov 14, 2018 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Luke Schmidt
I have a 2016 F-Type R. Manufacturer in May 2015. VIN ending in K27000. Do I need the 315MHz or 433MHz sensors?
Probably the 315z. I believe the changeover occurred around 27300.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2018 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd

Probably the 315z. I believe the changeover occurred around 27300.
Took my car to the tire shop today. They used a scanner tool on the TPMS sensors and confirmed the frequency is 433MHz. This just goes to show that there's no definitive way of knowing what you have other than getting them scanned.
 
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