TPMS
#61
Unfortunately, the saga continues for my 2016 F-Type (Vin K27000). The original 433MHz sensors that I ordered did not work. But after reading the recent posts in the thread, I was pleased to discover that I had, in fact, ordered the 433 low pressure sensors instead of the 433 high pressure sensors. I quickly ordered the right ones, and was confident that swapping them out would be the solution. Well, even after swapping them out with the OEM 433 high pressure sensors, the TPMS fault error remained.
At this point, I reluctantly decided the only thing left to do was to take it to the dealer and have them manually program the sensor ID #'s into the car's ECU (which I took pictures of before having them installed at the local tire shop). The dealer told me it was a success, and after $145 for 1 hour of labor, I was on my way. The error was gone, but when I went to check the individual tire psi, they all showed "0", whether the car was on or off. About 10 miles later, the dreaded TPMS system fault error was back.
Now I'm really at a loss. If even the dealer can't get these things working, what other options do I have? I'm half tempted to take the tires off my original wheels and confirm without a shadow of a doubt that they say 433MHz on the sensor itself. If it turns out I've actually needed 315Mhz this whole time...
At this point, I reluctantly decided the only thing left to do was to take it to the dealer and have them manually program the sensor ID #'s into the car's ECU (which I took pictures of before having them installed at the local tire shop). The dealer told me it was a success, and after $145 for 1 hour of labor, I was on my way. The error was gone, but when I went to check the individual tire psi, they all showed "0", whether the car was on or off. About 10 miles later, the dreaded TPMS system fault error was back.
Now I'm really at a loss. If even the dealer can't get these things working, what other options do I have? I'm half tempted to take the tires off my original wheels and confirm without a shadow of a doubt that they say 433MHz on the sensor itself. If it turns out I've actually needed 315Mhz this whole time...
#62
#63
Getting new wheels and not exactly thrilled after reading this thread...
TireRack is selling these 433Mhz sensors for my 2016 F-Type VIN K29XXX. Can I assume these will work?
https://www.tirerack.com/tpms/detail...y=4&S200_Qty=4
Edit: Also these https://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Land-Ro...75.c1#viTabs_0
Edit 2: The Ebay TPMS Sensors clearly state what the gentleman at VelocityAP mentions above: GX63 – 1A159 – AA. In other words, these are 433Mhz high speed sensors which should be just what I'm looking for.
Edit 3: Went with these. Killer deal. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-NEW-OEM-L...72.m2749.l2649
TireRack is selling these 433Mhz sensors for my 2016 F-Type VIN K29XXX. Can I assume these will work?
https://www.tirerack.com/tpms/detail...y=4&S200_Qty=4
Edit: Also these https://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Land-Ro...75.c1#viTabs_0
Edit 2: The Ebay TPMS Sensors clearly state what the gentleman at VelocityAP mentions above: GX63 – 1A159 – AA. In other words, these are 433Mhz high speed sensors which should be just what I'm looking for.
Edit 3: Went with these. Killer deal. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-NEW-OEM-L...72.m2749.l2649
Last edited by Jaggyx; 07-19-2019 at 11:05 AM.
#64
I can confirm that the schrader dual band tpms sensors sold by discount tire ($60) worked great in my ftype. They broadcast both 315mhz and 433mhz and thus should work on all year models. Certainly, they worked on my 433mhz car.
Also available at amazon for less but the extra money at discount tire covers a 7 year warranty and installation.
Also available at amazon for less but the extra money at discount tire covers a 7 year warranty and installation.
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#65
I can confirm that the schrader dual band tpms sensors sold by discount tire ($60) worked great in my ftype. They broadcast both 315mhz and 433mhz and thus should work on all year models. Certainly, they worked on my 433mhz car.
Also available at amazon for less but the extra money at discount tire covers a 7 year warranty and installation.
https://www.amazon.com/Schrader-3350...gateway&sr=8-6
Also available at amazon for less but the extra money at discount tire covers a 7 year warranty and installation.
https://www.amazon.com/Schrader-3350...gateway&sr=8-6
Good to know. And for reference, while I did buy the OE sensors from the eBay link above, they do not seem to "awake" themselves. The seller mentioned that the sensors do need to be woken up. I still haven't done this unfortunately.
#66
Correction that was 6 years warranty not 7.
As far as amazon part needing to be awakened, the tire store ons seem ready to go or have been preprogrammed by tire store. I didn’t notice them hooking up their tpms tool but they certainly had one to check my original tire frequency and they can wake them up for you. Does programming them to a particular make and model require the tpms to be out of the tire and inserted into the programmer? Good question but I don’t think so.
Technically, if I understand correctly, waking them up is using one of these tpms programing tools to take them out of storage mode which saves the battery, and putting them into park mode to match what a parked car is searching for. Many tire shops have these tools to do this for you. It can be done on the car without removal I believe.
The actual discount tire part number was: schrader 33520 tq12 t10. Slightly different than the amazon part, fyi. Not sure if any substantive difference, though.
As far as amazon part needing to be awakened, the tire store ons seem ready to go or have been preprogrammed by tire store. I didn’t notice them hooking up their tpms tool but they certainly had one to check my original tire frequency and they can wake them up for you. Does programming them to a particular make and model require the tpms to be out of the tire and inserted into the programmer? Good question but I don’t think so.
Technically, if I understand correctly, waking them up is using one of these tpms programing tools to take them out of storage mode which saves the battery, and putting them into park mode to match what a parked car is searching for. Many tire shops have these tools to do this for you. It can be done on the car without removal I believe.
The actual discount tire part number was: schrader 33520 tq12 t10. Slightly different than the amazon part, fyi. Not sure if any substantive difference, though.
#67
I can confirm that the schrader dual band tpms sensors sold by discount tire ($60) worked great in my ftype. They broadcast both 315mhz and 433mhz and thus should work on all year models. Certainly, they worked on my 433mhz car.
Also available at amazon for less but the extra money at discount tire covers a 7 year warranty and installation.
https://www.amazon.com/Schrader-3350...gateway&sr=8-6
Also available at amazon for less but the extra money at discount tire covers a 7 year warranty and installation.
https://www.amazon.com/Schrader-3350...gateway&sr=8-6
That TPMS mentions it's ONLY rated for 130 mph?? I have never seen a speed rating on a TPMS?
Is there a speed rating? What would happen if you exceeded that speed?
I have raced my XJR to 180 mph with no problems yet.
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#68
Have a set of $41.xx ebay sensors on my car and the car picked them up right away, no issues. I did nothing special....bolted the new wheels right up in my garage (had the tires mounted at a tires shop I trust...).
In fact, read one tire 3 psi low so I addressed it.
The keywords I used in the add were US (for United States) and 433 and somewhere about Jaguar/Land Rover.
Free shipping. Came in about a week. FYI only.
Selling store was "beautycom" - have nothing to do with them. Note, I have a whole 2 weeks of use on them so far so caveat emptor. At less than 11 dollars each shipped, I could not resist. The looked and felt exactly the same as the OEM ones so talk about possible profit item....
In fact, read one tire 3 psi low so I addressed it.
The keywords I used in the add were US (for United States) and 433 and somewhere about Jaguar/Land Rover.
Free shipping. Came in about a week. FYI only.
Selling store was "beautycom" - have nothing to do with them. Note, I have a whole 2 weeks of use on them so far so caveat emptor. At less than 11 dollars each shipped, I could not resist. The looked and felt exactly the same as the OEM ones so talk about possible profit item....
#69
Ugh. I have a 2017 Ftype (VIN K44168)
I purchased a new set of summer/track rims, tires, and dual mode 315/433MHz TPMS sensors and now I have the TPMS fault.
Oh well... serves me right to purchase parts before reading every Jaguar Forums thread.
I will try the following:
0) check which part number TPMS was installed in the track tires
1) go back to tire store (no Jag dealer in 150 miles of home) and have them "wake up" the installed TPMS sensors
2) perhaps do a battery disconnect for 30 seconds.
3) do the 1 hour Park/Drive/Park sequence.
4) cross my fingers..
I purchased a new set of summer/track rims, tires, and dual mode 315/433MHz TPMS sensors and now I have the TPMS fault.
Oh well... serves me right to purchase parts before reading every Jaguar Forums thread.
I will try the following:
0) check which part number TPMS was installed in the track tires
1) go back to tire store (no Jag dealer in 150 miles of home) and have them "wake up" the installed TPMS sensors
2) perhaps do a battery disconnect for 30 seconds.
3) do the 1 hour Park/Drive/Park sequence.
4) cross my fingers..
#70
I have the following in my car. 2016. These are the "newer" frequency. No issues. FYI only. I have NOTHING to do with the vendor and many other similar items may be out there that are just as good.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/143864157557
Good luck. All I am saying here is I bought these and installed them in my car and they've been functioning properly.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/143864157557
Good luck. All I am saying here is I bought these and installed them in my car and they've been functioning properly.
#71
Update: I purchased the Autel TS508 TPMS diagnostic tool, and it is very good.
I plan on using it every time I swap between "street" and "track" tires, and it can be used at the track to quickly read all tire pressures and temperatures in just a few seconds!
I found that my 2017 F-Type VIN K44168 car has the "old" 315MHz frequency system.
But it was interesting to see that there are three different 433 MHz communication formats which cover early/mid/late model F-Types. See picture below.
(Note: the TS508 has a frequency identification menu where it asks you to press buttons on your key fob, so the TPMS sensors uses the same frequency as the key fob)
The auto relearn process given for my 2017 F-Type in the Autel tool is this:
0) presumably start with "activating" the new sensors, or "programming" them if they did not come with a default address in memory.
1) Park car for 20 minutes (so the TPMS sensors and the car's Body Module can listen to each other?)
2) Drive car for > 10 minutes at speeds between 16-64 mph (sounds like a one way ticket on the highway)
3) Warning light on dash should extinguish
The tool also has menus to "copy" sensor addresses in various way.. and "write" to the car's Body Module, but none seem to apply to my 2017 Jaguar F-Type.
Before I finalize my TPMS reset process, I have to first recharge the battery which drains after I use my OBD reader (which doesn't terminate communications correctly)
I need to remember to reset the battery after every OBD use! or I need to get a new reader.
Autel TS508 reading the frequency from the key fob.
Autel TS508 listing 4 different communication options for Jaguar F-Types.
I plan on using it every time I swap between "street" and "track" tires, and it can be used at the track to quickly read all tire pressures and temperatures in just a few seconds!
I found that my 2017 F-Type VIN K44168 car has the "old" 315MHz frequency system.
But it was interesting to see that there are three different 433 MHz communication formats which cover early/mid/late model F-Types. See picture below.
(Note: the TS508 has a frequency identification menu where it asks you to press buttons on your key fob, so the TPMS sensors uses the same frequency as the key fob)
The auto relearn process given for my 2017 F-Type in the Autel tool is this:
0) presumably start with "activating" the new sensors, or "programming" them if they did not come with a default address in memory.
1) Park car for 20 minutes (so the TPMS sensors and the car's Body Module can listen to each other?)
2) Drive car for > 10 minutes at speeds between 16-64 mph (sounds like a one way ticket on the highway)
3) Warning light on dash should extinguish
The tool also has menus to "copy" sensor addresses in various way.. and "write" to the car's Body Module, but none seem to apply to my 2017 Jaguar F-Type.
Before I finalize my TPMS reset process, I have to first recharge the battery which drains after I use my OBD reader (which doesn't terminate communications correctly)
I need to remember to reset the battery after every OBD use! or I need to get a new reader.
Autel TS508 reading the frequency from the key fob.
Autel TS508 listing 4 different communication options for Jaguar F-Types.
#72
Ugh.. my saga continues.
Summary: My OEM wheels/tires/TPMS work fine, my track wheels/tires/TPMS do not (due to the wrong TPMS senders)
Apparently the Key Fob and the TPMS may be on the same frequency, or not.
My Autel TS508 tool has a means to identify the frequency of the key fob to help the technician identify which tire pressure sensors are on the car.
Well my 2017 F-Type has a 315 MHz key fob, and 433 MHz TMPS sensors. Go figure.
And the "dual mode" 315/433 MHz TPMS sensors that I cleverly purchased for my track wheels/tires were just plane-Jane 315 MHz units... thanks eBay.
So I am off to find some 433 MHz units with the high pressure rating.
The Autel TS508 tool reported out a recommended part number for my 2017-2021 Jag F-type:
OEM = Continental 433MHz
part number: GX 631 A 159 AA (which many of you will recognize from previous posts)
other number: S1 800 520 76A (not sure why the tool published this, but I wrote it down)
high pressure? C2D47173 (this comes from other forum posts where the OEM sensor was described)
In the mean time, the Autel TS508 tool was able to read the pressure and temperatures of my 315Mhz track tires at an SCCA-NER AutoX event.
It was easy for me to walk around the car and "scan" each tire. Made for easy monitoring and adjustments.
Summary: My OEM wheels/tires/TPMS work fine, my track wheels/tires/TPMS do not (due to the wrong TPMS senders)
Apparently the Key Fob and the TPMS may be on the same frequency, or not.
My Autel TS508 tool has a means to identify the frequency of the key fob to help the technician identify which tire pressure sensors are on the car.
Well my 2017 F-Type has a 315 MHz key fob, and 433 MHz TMPS sensors. Go figure.
And the "dual mode" 315/433 MHz TPMS sensors that I cleverly purchased for my track wheels/tires were just plane-Jane 315 MHz units... thanks eBay.
So I am off to find some 433 MHz units with the high pressure rating.
The Autel TS508 tool reported out a recommended part number for my 2017-2021 Jag F-type:
OEM = Continental 433MHz
part number: GX 631 A 159 AA (which many of you will recognize from previous posts)
other number: S1 800 520 76A (not sure why the tool published this, but I wrote it down)
high pressure? C2D47173 (this comes from other forum posts where the OEM sensor was described)
In the mean time, the Autel TS508 tool was able to read the pressure and temperatures of my 315Mhz track tires at an SCCA-NER AutoX event.
It was easy for me to walk around the car and "scan" each tire. Made for easy monitoring and adjustments.
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