+1. Per the parts catalogs, the changeover occurred at 27308. Obviously, the actual transition was a bit more arbitrary.

 

For anyone else who may be looking, this is the set I ended up ordering. Fingers crossed that they sync up without issue. I'll report back.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/161701812468

 

 

TPMS sensors... what a royal PITA! Been there too, several sources cite the incorrect frequency (including Jaguar's part catalog).
I have 4 sets of wheels for my car and luckily I learned my lesson after set #1, I tried 3 different brands and ultimately I was please with the VDO (Continental) sensors, they were learned well by following the procedure. Note, these are the OE sensors!
SE52076 - 433Mhz
SE52029 - 315Mhz

Re-learning is NOT simply driving over 16hph as written above, the process is a tad more involving. I will be looking up my notes but it was something like this, drive 30 minutes at speeds above 30MPH, then let the car sit for 30 minutes or so It sounded dumb but it worked.

 

Re-Learn process:

Here it is...
1. Vehicle must be parked for at least 15 minutes.
2. Then driven for at least 15 minutes above 30mph.
3. Then parked for at least 15 minutes to complete the relearn.

 

I have a 2015 XF and was hoping someone on this thread might be able to help with my new winter wheel tire package. There doesn't seem to be a dedicated XF TPMS thread.

I bought these TMPS sensors off ebay because they claimed to be compatible with my vehicle (per listing at the bottom of the ad).
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Complet...53.m2749.l2649

Initially, they went on without a hitch - no programming, no fault light.
The next day the fault light was on. I went back to the Firestone store and had them program each corner. The program tool in conclusion stated that the car must then be driven 15 miles to learn the new program. I took a 200 mile road trip and the light hasn't gone out.

The Jaguar dealership confirmed that 315 mHz is correct for my VIN, but I should buy OE TPMS and start all over with them.

I searched You Tube and found that domestic makes (Ford, GM) require a sequence of button pushing, letting air out of tires then refilling, programming acknowledged by a horn beep. Is there a similar procedure for Jaguar (like resetting the check engine light using the fog light / start / menu buttons)?

Any suggestions / recommendations are appreciated.

Thanks, Bob

 

Does the method FType17 listed in the previous post work for you?

 

I did a lot of research on this working for a dealer awhile back. The below are my notes on the Jag models. If you have any questions, shoot me an DM or preferably email in sig.

Too make it easy for this post in the F-Type forum section: If you had a 315Mhz F-Type it should be C2D38979, if you have 433Mhz its C2D47173.

315Mhz till F-Type VIN K15272, and F-Type onwards from VIN K15272 would be 433Mhz.

JTB00385NAS1 is for F-Type, not the entire Jag line-up. Which is why in this TB vehicle model is F-Type and Jag states K15272. The VIN K27000 is for the general Jag brand like XJ, XF, XK/XKR, XE. The reason for this is because Jag uses 4 types of 433mhz sensors. Too sum things up, there's a low pressure and high pressure sensors. The F-Type used a High pressure which I think is also on F-Pace, I-Pace and +XE 15MY, the others used low pressure sensors until MY15+. So for example, if you had a 2013 XJ it should of been 433 low pressure and a 2015 past K27000 would be 433 high pressure. If you had an F-Type before VIN K15272 it should be 315mhz and past VIN would be a 433mhz high pressure.

If you install a 433Mhz, you have to make sure it's the correct pressure or fault will still appear. Btw if you had the correct sensor and was an aftermarket unit, it's most often in a disabled/sleep state to preserve the battery life. When the tpms sensor is calibrated via a LF tool or dealer tool, this wakes the sensor from a sleep state. The dealer VDO sensors are most often enabled and ready to read pressure, not requiring calibrations to wake up. The only time I've seen the dealer sensors require calibration is if the light has been on for a while and dtc's need to be cleared(or if wrong sensor was installed). Until the DTC's are cleared out, the module will not self-learn. This is one of the main reasons even the dealers use an Autel TPMS calibration tool to learn all wheels. This tool will detect the freq and allow for calibration. The JLR system can be a PITA to calibrate even with dealer tools, I remember needing to swap wheels around to a known good corner position just so the initiator would trigger the correct sensors. The process above to let vehicle rest for 15 minutes just lets the vehicle start a sleep state and enable an auto check. This auto check will help self clear the light if no TPMS tool is available. Most of the time, if the vehicle isn't being a PITA and correct sensor is installed, the new sensor would learn before reaching first stop sign (not even 50 yards away)

To know which sensor you have (High or Low). You can sometimes look at the sensors black plastic casing, which is what I'd do if I was casing an issue of a calibration not being successful. You'll see on the sensor FW93 – 1A159 – AB for Low pressure (C2Z31510, C2D21599, C2C41655) and GX63 – 1A159 – AA for high pressure (C2D47173). Be advise these part numbers are for the 433Mhz dilemma...






Also if you want to refer to an VDO application guide, which is the company that makes these OEM sensor. Here's the link:
https://www.vdo.com/media/182593/201...ation-list.pdf




Hope this helps anyone trying to figure things out.

 

Thanks Chris, I've contacted VDO from your attached link, but since C2D47173 is 433mHZ, I think the 2015 XF they list is the Euro 2015 (we got it in 2016 MY) . My (US) 2015 XF is the previous generation XF. Also, my dealership stated I need 315 Mhz based on my VIN. It will be interesting to see how they respond.

And now, I'm more confused due to possible 'high pressure' or 'low pressure' requirements. I included this concern to VDO.

I will have the Firestone store perform a re-awakening of my sensors (couldn't hurt) and try the 'Park - Drive - Park' method, but I'm sure the driving I've done over the last week has included that sequence.
Maybe the specific sequence needs to be done immediately after awakening the TPMS sensors????

 

Is your XF before or after K27000?

 

This is the link to the actual manufacturer of the original sensors, they are branded for VDO/Continental and Jaguar Land Rover. Relearn procedure link included....
Dill Air Controls Products » TPMS Lookup

I have them on all of my wheel sets... No problems with them (433Mhz)
For our clients looking to save a few $$$, these worked very well too http://a.co/d/g7Cj3l4

 

What does K27000 refer to?

All I can say is that the build date of my XF (sorry for tagging the F Type thread) is 05/13/2015. The local dealer states my vehicle requires 315 MHz per the SAJWJ0FFXF8U53489 VIN.

My new 315 MHz TPMS sensors only threw an error / fault light after the 2nd day, not initially, and 'awakening' the sensors then driving didn't cancel the fault. Has anyone else experienced this?

I've received no response from VDO, yet.

 

It refers to the last 6 digits of your VIN #

 

 

I walked away from my reply for 15 minutes and my entire text is gone even though it supposedly auto saved - another addition to my frustration, but I digress..

I went back to Firestone with one of my summer wheels/tires to verify the 315 MHz frequency. They then re-awakened my aftermarket 315 MHz TPMS sensors, plugged their programming tool into my OBDII port, showed not only that the vehicle read each corner (to within 0.1 lbs), but even the individual temperatures. So the TPMS sensors are speaking to the car, yet the TPMS fault remained lit.
I then proceeded to to perform the method F-Type17: Wait 15 minutes, then I jumped on the freeway for 40 miles, then parked it. The fault remains lit. Perhaps Chris from AP Velocity's discussion of 'high pressure' vs 'low pressure' is critical here and my aftermarket units are incorrect?!?

I'm beginning to believe the dealership in that only OE genuine Jaguar TPMS sensors (part #C2D38979) are embedded with unique coding that disables the fault light.
I can buy these for $100 ea from the dealership's online parts group, The dealership charges $160 to swap all 4 TPMS sensors, Firestone will do the job for $60.
But will Jaguar guarantee the sensors to work if the installation is done elsewhere?

I'm so frustrated at this point, I have half a notion to just live with the fault light.
Why does this have to be so specific & complicated? Of course, we are talking JLR who also specify Castrol EDGE 'Professional' 5W-20 oil which is nearly 'unobtainium' - dealer only.

Or an I missing something here?????

 

You can get it on eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/CASTROL-EDGE-PROFESSIONAL-LL-IV-FE-SYNTHETIC-0W-20-6-Quart-CASE-P-15A9D5/123461927397?epid=6016134594&hash=item1cbee781e5:g :h4MAAOSwmMNb2dM1:rk:1f:0) or at Amazon but most times still cheaper from the dealer. I can get it for under $11/liter from my dealer.

 

Thanks Unhigned! I actually queried Google and I bought 6 quarts from Walmart (3rd party sale) for $68.72 including shipping.
I couldn't find it anywhere else (except for the dealer) for a long time. My dealership is a good half hour drive across town.

Still on the fence on purchasing a set of C2D38979 TPMS. I'll probably do it once my frustration subsides. After all, my intent was to have a proper winter set of wheels / tires. I guess I can re-post the aftermarket set on ebay, with a disclaimer stating that they won't work with JLR vehicles, as the seller should have done with me.

 

I don't think your sensors are 315Mhz, as of VIN K27000 (U53489 is higher than K27000) it was swapped to 433Mhz low pressure and in 06/2015 it was changed to a high pressure version of the 433Mhz for an XF. This was all explained in my write up few posts up. Btw for this VIN you supplied, the warranty start date was 05/10/2015 and your vin BUILD date is 10/28/2014 (not 05/13/2015 like you mentioned). This Oct 2014 build date would mean you have an X250 (low pressure 433 Mhz) and not an X260 (High pressure 433 Mhz). OEM sensors should be part # C2Z31510, this 433 Mhz low pressure sensor was used in XF from 2003 till 2015.5.

Regardless, the best bet would be to have your sensors read by a wireless TPMS tool(will read the sensor in the wheel from outside). Have one of your original sensors read to find out if it's 315 or 433. Most of the time there's also a part number than can be read by the tool and then cross referenced. I know the Autel TPMS tool will do this job. I'm sure a tire shop around you has this tool or similar. Once you find out the info, there's no need to chase part numbers and dealers for answers..Just install and have them taken out of disabled mode, then drive to learn.

 

Chris - Thanks for the detailed info.

I now realize that I was in error citing my build date. I was looking at the paperwork from when I purchased the car, and the date I cited was the warranty start date, as written when I took delivery. Why the dealer entered 5/13/15 instead of 5/10/15, is beyond me??? I bought the car, CPO (with extended warranty), having only 14.5 K miles. Knowing the correct warranty date is useful in the event that I keep the car to the 100 K mile limit - very probable, my wife and I take a lot of road trips.
You certainly sound credible regarding TPMS information, all I can tell you is that the factory wheels / tires read 315 when scanned. Being a used car and not knowing it's history, is it possible that a module was changed along with the TPMS sensors?

 

I just went out to run an errand and to my delight, the TPMS fault indicators have finally gone out.
It only took 3 weeks and 700 miles - Crazy!