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Having felt the handling differences between the current engines I'm pretty interested to see how the decreased weight over the front axle changes the steering. This one could end up being a lot of fun especially in a manual. Like a Toyota 86 that you could actually live with, and with the power it should have had.
 
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Originally Posted by BruceTheQuail
Having felt the handling differences between the current engines I'm pretty interested to see how the decreased weight over the front axle changes the steering. This one could end up being a lot of fun especially in a manual. Like a Toyota 86 that you could actually live with, and with the power it should have had.
No manual to be available with the I4. They are probably thinking it will not sell to enthusiasts.

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You guys keep mentioning sales volume... but how can that be a major factor when it's not any cheaper? $1500 off the price of a V6 isn't going to magically gather thousands of sales.
 
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Here is the future. 2.0 L, I4, 296 HP; 2.5 L, I5, 370 HP; 3.0L, I6, 444 HP; then various tunes of the twin turbo BMW V8 that has been previously discussed. Just sayin'.
 
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They ought to go ahead and release the VW Beetle kit car.
 
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Originally Posted by Stohlen
You guys keep mentioning sales volume... but how can that be a major factor when it's not any cheaper? $1500 off the price of a V6 isn't going to magically gather thousands of sales.
Because if it was $10-$15K cheaper we really would be bitching about watering down the brand to compete with the demographic of the Ford Focus RS...

If you look at the other marques you will see they too have been beaten with the emissions stick to climb down the number of cylinders...

I remember the fuss when Aston Martin dared to make a car without a V12. The end of the empire was upon us...

To echo a bunch of my fellows, I don't see the arrival of a smaller engine making my smile turn into a frown when I'm behind the wheel of mine. Yes it's only a six cylinder, what do I know ;-)
 
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Originally Posted by cjp
No manual to be available with the I4. They are probably thinking it will not sell to enthusiasts.

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Yeah, I saw that on another site. Bummer, as the manual is really the only way to have the 86. But maybe they need the auto to get the best out of the engine, otherwise it could be a 6.5 second car rather than a 5.7 second one.
 
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The single exhaust looks like the back end of every other mammal, including humans. They didn't make it round for a reason,; I can just imagine the designers discussing this feature.
 
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Not a fan that they are creating a new lower entry model. The rarity of the F-Type is gone for me. I see them everywhere on a daily basis now. I'd say 4 out of 5 are the base or S model. The R is rarer but looks-wise, few people know the difference between it and the base.
 
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Originally Posted by RickyJay52
IMO, the single exhaust does nothing whatsoever to enhance or improve the look (and appeal of the historic nature of the dual exhaust harkening back to the E-Type). Just the opposite. To each his own but I'm thrilled to own a 2015 V6S.
+1. Rather than harkening back to an E-Type, it harkens back to a Boxster (which is probably the market niche they are targeting).
 
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If everyone is getting bent out of shape about a 4 cylinder F Type - just wait till they release the diesel version !!
 
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If everyone is getting bent out of shape about a 4 cylinder F Type - just wait till they release the diesel version !!
Wow, that kind of hurtful sarcasm was uncalled for. I am feeling a tad nauseated now, I need to find my safe place.
 
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Ladies...
have you considered that the 4 banger might not be destined for the U.S. market? Everybody already knows that the U.S. male ego is too insecure not to crave the biggest displacement engine. However, there are parts of the world where displacement is heavily taxed and Jag is looking to penetrate those markets.


Case in point -
JaguarUSA.com site: no mention of 4 banger
Jaguar.co.UK site: already heavily touting and advertising the 4 banger
 
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
Ladies...
have you considered that the 4 banger might not be destined for the U.S. market? Everybody already knows that the U.S. male ego is too insecure not to crave the biggest displacement engine. However, there are parts of the world where displacement is heavily taxed and Jag is looking to penetrate those markets.


Case in point -
JaguarUSA.com site: no mention of 4 banger
Jaguar.co.UK site: already heavily touting and advertising the 4 banger

Like France.
 
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Originally Posted by WhiteTardis
I'm personally excited to see this 4 banger turbo. Its not always about cylinder count and displacement. The Japanese have been doing this for years and the American's are catching up.

-Honda S2000? 240 naturally aspirated HP.
-Mitsubishi Evo?
-Subaru WRX STi?
-Focus RS?
-Mustang Ecoboost?
-Porsche
The difference with those cars is that they're all about 500-1000lbs lighter than the F-Type. The S2000 tops out at 2,800ish lbs. The F-Type tops out at 3,800ish.

If they have us a baby F-Type geared towards track driving, like Porsche did with the Cayman, that would have been great. But they didn't. Which is ok, too. If they doubled production of the F-Type, that would still be less than Ferrari is planning to sell this year.
 
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this has made the decision to keep my 16' rwd v8 coupe even easier

....now about that headlight retro
 
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I reckon the prices of used / second hand F-Types will now take a bit of a hit, but in about 4 or 5 years' time they will start to increase as the desirability of the "classic" supercharged F-Type increases, especially the dinosaur V8s.
 
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Originally Posted by BruceTheQuail
Yeah, I saw that on another site. Bummer, as the manual is really the only way to have the 86. But maybe they need the auto to get the best out of the engine, otherwise it could be a 6.5 second car rather than a 5.7 second one.
That was my thought too. The automatics now are very good.
 
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
Ladies...
have you considered that the 4 banger might not be destined for the U.S. market? Everybody already knows that the U.S. male ego is too insecure not to crave the biggest displacement engine. However, there are parts of the world where displacement is heavily taxed and Jag is looking to penetrate those markets.


Case in point -
JaguarUSA.com site: no mention of 4 banger
Jaguar.co.UK site: already heavily touting and advertising the 4 banger
This.

JLR has produced lots of engine variants that never made it to the US.

In Korea and other markets, 4 cylinder XJ's have been sold for years.

Naturally aspirated 3.0L V6 gasoline XF's and XJ's, that were never sold in the US.

In some markets there was a 3.5L naturally aspirated V8 version of the XK, never sold in the US. Same engine was also put in the XJ in some markets.

You might all be worried about something that won't even be available in the US market.
 
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it has the engine that the Mustang 4-cyl turbo has.
 


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