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Well done. The substantive stuff is all still here, and the irrelevant noise is gone.

 

Every one has a valied point tought (spelling i know), the base map looks *****!!

 

Why don't we settle this by a friendly race, stock '16 R vs Vmax tuned '16 R and see what the true gains are?
520awhp is impressive no matter what the gain was.
I'd join in but I have a '15 R

 

Did you guys run the car with ms109 or anything? If you guys are available for a pull tomorrow, I'm going to be in OC this weekend.

 

+1

 

Hello all, I've been tied up with work since the dyno tuning session, but I've just caught up on this thread. The car tuned and tested was mine.

I will be the first to admit that the stock pulls look really strange on the dyno, but surprisingly, I didn't see anything in the timing/AFR/throttle data that would explain the fall in power ar higher RPMs. I was logging via OBDII using my personal BT1A tool while the pulls were being performed. Vmax had no involvement in this, so that things were kept impartial.

I'm not sure if this was mentioned, but I am running the stock upper pulley for now and I was burning Shell 91 octane fuel during the pulls. The car has never seen anything better than 91.

What I can say is that compared to stock, the car post tuning is much more powerful through the RPM range and substantially more powerful from 4000-Redline. I've put in dozens of dyno hours with other cars in the past, but this is the first AWD car that I've had tuned. Regardless, of the curve shape, I can honestly say that the car it's much faster than stock and I'll be following up on this at the track.

Beyond the numbers, the team from Vmax has been as professional and accommodating as possible. I'll be continuing this adventure with them further as the bolt-on hardware becomes available.

I'll be making further trips the dyno to document the progression in power. The ultimate goal is to extract the maximum power from pump gas only, as this will appeal to the majority of enthusiasts. Race gas will be an added benefit for those looking for on track performance.

 

Only Shell 91 octane. We will have to race again this week. Let's get you up to the same dyno for comparison! Week days only. There aren't and AWD Dynojets down here in SD unfortunately.

 

Maybe we can flash TimelessR back to stock to run against Chris's car?

I like the idea, especially on video, but they aren't my cars so totally up to those gentlemen.

FYI, we'll have 1/4 mile track results soon, that will lay to bed any issues anyone has with data. We've VBox 1/4 mile tested James' car and ran 11.1@127+, but have yet to have anyone get to a real track yet.

Thanks

 

Yea that's be awesome before the rain comes back. Also, California Speedway is opening up next weekend.

 

I am 100% in for a track test. Timeless R and I communicate almost daily, so setting this up should be no problem hopefully we can get the Vmax crew there too!

 

Chris,

Let's get a 3 way email going between Timeless R, you and myself. We have a slave/laptop headed to San Jose next week so we can probably get it to Timeless R after the S.J. customer flashes his car.

Do either of you have a gopro?

Thanks
VMax

 

Sounds great, I have a Hero 4, so the GoPro is covered.

 

Perfect!

 

Any news?

 

As soon as I can get TimelessR to stop working so damn much!! It's just a matter of scheduling at this point.

 

Bill, any news on the tool/laptop?

 

I don't know if I want to revert my car back to slow/stock status. Going to be painful. On a different note, the new R8 would be sick with a fab-TT kit.

 

We can race tune to tune and stock to stock.

 

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