Plz reread my message. I didn't say you can' t use a newer version, I said you'll need a subscription beyond v131.03. When I purchased my cloned Mongoose last year even the original manufacturer referred my to Topix for a subscription. Also, check more posts in this forum. That's where I got the info initially. I wish it weren't true.

 

Hi all,

I have read through the entire thread and it looks to me that the Mongoose is a solid option to read out faults with the SDD program.

I'd like to know if anyone has used the DA-VINA interface from diagnostic associates? How is it different from the Mongoose (supported models, functions etc)

Cheers

 

We currently have two of the DA-VINA devices. One is the DA-VINA2 pass-thru interface and the other is the DA ST-512. The 512 can load other applications for things like Parking Brake, Suspension, Alignment and Service Resets, but it also incorporates the DA-VINA2 interface. They pretty much work as well as the MongoosePro JLR, but seem to occasionally loose connection with the laptops. Not a real big deal, just have to disconnect and reconnect the USB cable once in a while. Otherwise, they work just fine.

Cheers,

 

Got to work with the British Diag a little more..I have used the IDS on some older cars but the SDD gives me the error message that I must update and functionality has been suspended. Emailing BDS to see if they have any wisdom.

 

Found some info on the DA ST-512 for your information. Noted that it does say vehs from 2005 onwards.


Jaguar and Land Rover Service Hand Held Tool
Overview
Jaguar & Land Rover approved device
Operates standalone with special applications. E.g. SIR, EPBR DPFDR, etc.
Also allows connection to the vehicle using JLR SDD diagnostic software via J2534
Covers CAN, ISO9141, SCP vehicle networks
1metre USB Cable included as standard
Free to update for new vehicles and model years via laptop/PC application over USB
The DA-ST512 connects directly to the vehicle OBDII diagnostic connector, powers from the vehicle and is then ready to use.
The DA-ST512 can perform a vast number of applications, a selection of which is provided below.
The DA-ST512 can also be used as a SDD J2534 VCI device where connects directly to the vehicle OBDII diagnostic connector, it then connects to the laptop via a USB cable for use with SDD. Once the J2534 DLL files are loaded, this product will allow normal operation with JLR SDD diagnostic software. All protocol communication are possible with this device.
This unit will work from 2005> vehicles , please see our website for full application list within the user manual
Diagnostic functions included in this kit
Read & Clear Fault Codes
This application Reads all the DTCs from all the ECUs on the High Speed CAN bus, Low Speed CAN bus and MOST ECU connected via the diagnostic Gateway. DTCs can be & Clear cleared globally or ECUs individually.
SIR – Service Reset
This application resets the service light and/or oil change reset depending on Interval Reset the vehicle. Note some vehicles have a manual procedure for this function.
EPBR – Electronic Park Brake Release
Moves the electronic park brake to the mount position and then releases the Park Brake Release brake callipers.
J2534 - VCI Gateway mode
Once the JLR J2534 DLL files are loaded, this product will allow normal operation Gateway mode with JLR SDD Diagnostic software (subscription required). All protocol communication is possible with this device.
TTMT – Tight Tolerance Mode Toggle
Toggles between tight tolerance mode and customer mode on the vehicle to Tolerance Mode allowing steering or chassis alignments.
DPFDR – DPF Dynamic Regeneration
The DPFDR application allows the vehicles DPF dynamic regeneration process Dynamic to be undertaken to clear the DPF of soot build up.
DPFAR – DPF Adaption Reset
The DPFAR application resets the DPF soot value enabling the DPF dynamic Adaption Reset regeneration to be performed or following the fitment of a new diesel particulate filter.

What does the DA-ST512 do?
The DA-ST512 connects directly to the vehicle OBDII diagnostic connector, powers from the vehicle and is then ready to use. The DA-ST512 can perform a vast number of applications, a selection of which is provided in the previous table.
The DA-ST512 can also be used as a SDD J2534 VCI device where connects directly to the vehicle OBDII diagnostic connector, it then connects to the laptop via a USB cable for use with SDD. Once the J2534 DLL files are loaded, this product will allow normal operation with JLR SDD diagnostic software (subscription required). All protocol communication are possible with this device.
How does the DA-ST512 operate?
The DA-ST512 is simple and easy to use.
 General Applications
o On first use, register the device to unlock it. This requires the download of the PC software update application (details provided below).
o The PC software will allow updates to current applications to the latest level.
o The PC software will also allow new applications to be purchased and downloaded.
o The PC software will allow applications to be trialled for a limited number of operations to allow the user to try the application before purchasing.

The matrix of vehicle and Model Year coverage per application can be found on our website Hickleys :: Diagnostic and Garage Equipment Specialists within the product user manual.
Other JLR related products are available see Hickleys :: Diagnostic and Garage Equipment Specialists

 

After Christmas I decided to "update" my JLR diagnostics.UOBD2.net had a "special" for $49.99 US and I ordered one. It arrived a few days later while we were on our way to winter quarters in Florida.

We returned 2 weeks ago and I decided not to try it until I finished my "winter works program"

After replacing the transmission cooler lines, oil pan, sleeve and fluid refill on my 2004 XJ Vanden Plas ,I had all kinds of DTCs to delete and I used my old system, JLR Mongoose SDD V130.07,to check and clear all the DTCs.

Later as I was cleaning up my garage I accidentally tripped into the shelf on which my laptop was sitting and my laptop ended up bouncing on my ceramic tile floor--destroyed my laptop.

So I found a "new" laptop, a Dell Latitude D520,2.0MHz processor,2GB RAM ,110 GB HD and Windows XP,Service Pack3.

I spent yesterday loading the software and found to great delight that they had sent me a Mongoose Pro. Not being a computer geek, and being keen on NCAA Madness (Go Spartans!),it took me all day--- so no on car testing yesterday.

This morning I put the system on my 2004 Vanden Plas and it works fine. This is so much faster than my old system. I played around a bit and so far all is well.

Then I go to my 2004 S-Type, hook it up and read the VIN, and as expected I get the message to start IDS,I press the icon and it tries to start IDS but then just returns to the previous screen.

Anyone have any words of wisdom?

 

Following on from the above post, I gave up on that machine/software combination.

I found a used "Acer Aspire One",1.66GHZ processer,1 GB ram,250GB HDD and Windows 7 Starter Edition. I loaded my SDD130.7 and the Chinese version of J2345 Driver(it seems to have gone from the Drew Tech site).

No problems installing --took about 4.5 hours. The Mongoose connected immediately.
Hooked it to the 2004 S-Type, it read the VIN and went to IDS on Identification read car data, checked DTCs OK.
Hooked to the 2004 XJ VandenPlas, read VIN, identified the vehicle.

So I have a working tool and it's easy and light to use.

 

What surprises (and annoys) me a little is that almost every Jaguar instruction mentions either the WDS or the IDS, the SDD is hardly ever mentioned. It almost feels like the SDD is not capable of doing all the things the old units can. I find this strange.

I'm using the older SDD V1.31 which doesn't need a password or license and it's new enough for my 2005 XJ. However I would like to be able to use IDS as it seems to have more possibilities then the regular SDD. Is there a way to get to the IDS part without having to go through to IDS password part?

I also have an older V1.18 IDS only version but that seems to be tied to the VCM or can it be used with the Mongoose as well?

On the forums I also found someone mentioning the download file which is in the runtime directory. I started it and see some interesting stuff but again without explanation it's difficult to find what actually can be done.

What are my options to get beyond the SDD and digg deeper?

Guus

 

Hello,
I am in France and I encounter the same problems as SIX ROTORS
I have a V1.39 on a Chinese Mongoose and the car is 2003 S Type 4.2
The recognition of the VIN is not done automatically.
After entering the VIN manually the system tells me that "This vehicle is not supported by the SDD.Nous recommend proceeding via conventional IDS tools"
2 options are available: Start conventional IDS tools or Log Off.
If I choose the first option, the homepage IDS tools appears and the screen clears and .... nothing.

If someone has an idea, it's not denial.
Thank

 

For the time being I have given up on SSD DVD 139 V7 because my big laptop needs sorting out.

I have now set up SSD DVD130 V7,which I acquired from ebay UK, on my Acer Netbook, with a 1.6 Mhz processor,1 Gb RAM and a 255 GB HDD.

It runs Windows 7 Starter(32 bit version), with Internet Explorer 8,Adobe Reader 10,and Java 1.6.26 and Mongoose Driver from China(I could not find my copy of the original Drew Tech driver).I reset the computer date to September, 2012.

It loaded in about 5hrs and works perfectly on my 04 S-Type in IDS mode and my 04 Vanden Plas in SSD mode.

 

You need V130 if you want IDS.

See this diagram

Versions | Jaguar & Land Rover Diagnostics Equipment

 

Thank you for your answers.
I will follow your advice and buy a V130

 

So are you saying version 131 does not have IDS?
I have XPxp3 running in virtual box and I too have to add Vin manually,
I'm told to use IDS and click the link but it's been 15-20 mins and nothing.

I'm seeing usb activity via icon but not sure if this takes a long time on the first connect or ?

 

Version V131.03 also includes IDS but it depends on the age of the car if SDD or IDS is used. On my 2005 it only works with SDD.

From a fellow forum member I received a V125 on which I should be able to use IDS together with the Mongoose. Installing it now in a VM an will see if it works on my car.

Guus

 

I have attached some screens from my Windows 7 SSD install with my 2004 S-Type and 2004 Vanden Plas.

 

Hi, Six,

What you and some others may not realize, is that for attending to the cars you have, you are more likely better off with the older version of SDD/IDS anyway. SDD is continually in flux, constantly in a state of being updated for the ever evolving newer cars. For that reason, they are of course concentrating on the new systems. Sometimes these modifications inadvertently interfere with how SDD works on the older models. Occasionally this function or that test no longer functions in SDD on, say a 2004 S-Type. The diagnostic group is obviously more concerned with how SDD works on the new cars than they are on the older cars. Consequently that glitch on the 2004 car may, or may not ever be corrected.

My point is, if you are dealing with a ten or eleven year old car, I wouldn't necessarily be concerned with always having the 'latest and greatest' diagnostic software. If you have a 2013 model, that may be a different story.

My two cents........

 

Can't be seen to disagree with what you say XJ---I have given up on SSD DVD 139 for now.

 

JLR Mongoose Pro,JLR Jaguar Land Rover Mongoose Pro--AutoTool-Mall
With V138...? can I lower my 2004 XJR with this tool?

 

Karaudio, get the tool...as you'll need that no matter what you do, but if your v138 doesn't install or work for you, I'll give you a link to download v130 which I am certain will. I used it on my 2005.

 

Can I get that link, haven't been able to get mine working after installing it on 3 different laptops....