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Old 12-20-2018, 05:16 AM
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I have been offered a set of new spinners & hubs plus a used set of wire wheels
The seller claims these are for a Mk2 Jag

I would need your help here. How can I identify if these would fit on my 240 Jag?

I am not sure whether I should buy the used wheels (although I can get these for too cheap) but I am tempted on the hubs and spinners.
Maybe I should buy the whole set, and when I can afford, I will replace the wheels with brand new tubeless from MWS




 
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I believe they are all the same up to the S type and 420.
 
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Lambretta. If I was you I would just get the whole kit when you are ready from MWS in the UK. Those spinners are already looking tired & then you can be sure of correct offsets etc for the wheel you choose.

Also beware of old wire wheels with worn splines & suspect spokes. They can be rebuilt with new hubs & spokes but the further you are from the UK, Usually the less financially viable this becomes.

The S Type & 420 etc. rear splined hubs are quite different with the IRS.

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If you are going standard wheel sizes, a set of hubs and spinners will set you back about 500 or more, so if they are the right price, grab them, you can always re-sell them.

I am looking for a good set too for another project Mk2.

As Glyn has said be aware of worn splines on older wheels, the hubs look brand new, the spinners are quite serviceable and may polish up better, but are not battered from abuse with a metal hammer..
 
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TilleyJon I found a mint condition rear bumper for a 340. Rarest of the rare. (no over riders sorry).
 
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I am checking through MWS webshop and I see different ones for the 230/340 and the Mk2

240/340 with inset 18.3mm and back spacing 95mm

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and for the Mk2 with inset 20.6mm and back spacing 97mm

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Do you have any idea about the reason MWS sells different option wheel for the 240 than the Mk2 2.4?
 
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The difference between those two wheels is that one is an easy clean & one is a curly hub. With their latest "tubeless" spoke lacing the offset changes slightly between the two.
 
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Nice answer Glyn, I was going to say I didn't know, but now I do
 
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TJ ~ even from the Dunlop pressed hub deep curl to the billet hub shallower curl to the easy clean & changes in lacing caused slight differences in offset from clamping face to centre line of the wheels. For a given rim width.
 
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Today I got the set
the hubs and the spinners are brand new and never fitted. They have just been stored for about 20 years, but they are meant. I will post some pics soon

the wheels are used period items and look to be in good shape. Their splines look really good but I cannot be 100% sure unless I give them a very good clean and check them thoroughly.

a couple of wires might need to be replaced as they are not 100% straight

I removed the rim tape and look like there is the following stamp on the wheel: DRC 5K 15

do you think these are genuine period Dunlops?

my major dilemma is whether I should keep and restore these wheels and have the real thing or buy a new set of 5 wheels from MWS.
I have heard of some people being happy with the MWS quality, but on the other hand they are tube less nowadays


 
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Great ~ They have cleaned up beautifully. The original spinner pic you showed looked as though there was some pitting starting.

The DRC 5K 15 is a correct original Dunlop wheel code so they are likely the genuine article.

Just have any bent spokes (where they are not supposed to be bent) replaced & the wheels trued & tensioned & you are good to go.

Do not run wheels with damaged/badly tensioned spokes or you will just damage the rest. Those original Dunlops were known to be a good strong wheel.

I've got new (but old in years) MWS chrome wires & can't fault the quality. One of the nice things about the new TL wheels is that they now use Chromed Stainless spokes.

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Buy one of these to save your spinners!



 
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Merry Christmas to all
I am wishing you all the best. Health and happiness to you and your families
 
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Original Dunlop wheels will have Made in England stamped where the rim band sits

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Original Dunlop wheels will have Made in England stamped where the rim band sits

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Some do, Some have Dunlop stamped on them & some only the code.
 
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Some do, Some have Dunlop stamped on them & some only the code.
I will try to clean them in the next days, so to check if there is any Dunlop stamp on them.
It wont be difficult to clean them, as they appear being in a good state with no rust on them.

I surely prefer to have the period wheels fitted on the car, but on the other hand, safety comes first and I would feel much more comfortable with the car rolling on the tubeless ones.
This will be my dilemma for the next days
 
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I have the factory wire wheels with tubes and never had a problem in 14 years.

I understand the tubeless wire wheels will leak even with the sealing band around the inside.
 
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The MWS TL wires do not leak. There is, however nothing wrong with running tubes. Operating temperatures will be higher exacerbated by modern tyre lack of internal smooth finish. This can be offset somewhat by running nitrogen.
 
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I just replaced my original chrome wires with MWS because the cost of having them trued etc. was almost as much as 4 new wheels. The new wheels are 15x6 so I can run modern radials, and they don't leak. Personal preference!
 
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I understand the personal preference. Some of the wider options look very good.









 

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