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Recommend anyplace in SoCal who can replace headliner in a '63 MK2?

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Old Oct 11, 2023 | 06:59 PM
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Default Recommend anyplace in SoCal who can replace headliner in a '63 MK2?

...preferably somewhere in (or near) the San Fernando Valley area.

Also, since I reckon I'll have to supply the headliner, I'd like your opinion on who makes (or supplies) the best for fit and quality.

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Old Oct 12, 2023 | 06:07 AM
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I would contact local Jaguar clubs through the JCNA.com website, they will know an upholstery shop that works on Jaguar.

as far as the fabric goes, BAS Ltd. claims they offer authentic Jaguar interior materials. I ordered headliner fabric for my '84 XJ-6 back in the 1990's and it is a high quality material.. They are in the northwest USA. They will know which is the correct fabric for your car.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2023 | 07:58 AM
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BAS' roof lining material for an S Type is totally wrong ~ s/b Lambswool Union Cloth. So check what they offer you & ask for a sample for a Mk2 from them.

Correct: (mine from John Skinner UK ~ Union Cloth)





BAS wrong (thin, hard foam backed that shows pile marks)

 

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Old Oct 12, 2023 | 02:30 PM
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Refresh page. ~ I found the comparative pictures.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2023 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jose
I would contact local Jaguar clubs through the JCNA.com website, they will know an upholstery shop that works on Jaguar.

as far as the fabric goes, BAS Ltd. claims they offer authentic Jaguar interior materials. I ordered headliner fabric for my '84 XJ-6 back in the 1990's and it is a high quality material.. They are in the northwest USA. They will know which is the correct fabric for your car.

Hey thanks Jose, I'm contacting the Los Angeles chapter for some leads as to who can do it.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2023 | 11:32 PM
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Refresh page. ~ I found the comparative pictures.
Hey Glyn, thank you for posting the examples. I imagine that the MK2 and S-type share the same style cloth, is that correct?

The car is a very original example, so it looks like OEM is the only option...

...not that I'm complaining mind you.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2023 | 11:19 AM
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That green stuff in post #3 looks just like that Natuzzi ultra-suede product that was used on furniture _ never liked it, and it looks very out of place as a head liner fabric.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2023 | 05:38 PM
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That green stuff in post #3 looks just like that Natuzzi ultra-suede product that was used on furniture _ never liked it, and it looks very out of place as a head liner fabric.
Yup, "stately" it is not....more appropriate in a room decorated with, among other bric-a-brac, a picture of some dogs playing poker.
 

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Originally Posted by Chris Scott
Hey Glyn, thank you for posting the examples. I imagine that the MK2 and S-type share the same style cloth, is that correct?

The car is a very original example, so it looks like OEM is the only option...

...not that I'm complaining mind you.
Yes. Mk2 used Lambswool Union Cloth with battons.

Just about every UK coach-builder used it on Rolls, Bentley, Daimler etc. etc. etc.

Suggest you contact: See Wool Union Cloth 2nd item 3 colours. Certainly standard on S Type. My car was researched in enormous detail. Just rated best in country by the Crankhandle Club leader & judging panel 100 points >. You can see the story of my car in my signature. Some final run out cars used perforated vinyl head-lining. (by then 240's & 340's ~ I have seen a few on my global job travels)

https://john-skinner.co.uk/materials-and-colours/headlining
 

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Old Oct 14, 2023 | 02:32 AM
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Also see this re bug spray.

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/m...enance-273508/
 
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Old Oct 14, 2023 | 07:54 AM
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Apart from looking nice, lambswool has the advantage of being shrinkable. If an area requires tension to remove ripples or sagging, local steaming should correct it.

The original insulation material stuck to the roof behind the headlining is filthy stuff that resembles old fashioned carpet underlay or extremely compressed fluff. In fact, some restorers used to replace it with carpet underlay. It produces a lot of dust that can pass through the lambswool and make it look dirty. If you use the original insulation or replace it with similar, it may be worth covering it with a tight weave fabric to protect the lambswool. My guess is that the main purpose of the insulation is to insulate against heat. If I'm right, the modern materials used to stop noise, mainly by adding weight, might not be the best option.

Making and fitting the headlining isn't easy. It's one of those jobs that requires a very good shop; otherwise it's do it yourself slowly and carefully. The area around the rear screen is particularly awkward. The fabric should follow the perimeter of the glass and be fitted underneath the rubber seal. It's very tempting, or even advisable, to abandon originality and make a screen surround in wood to match the rest of the interior and/or aluminium suitably upholstered and covered with lambswool.
 
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Dynamat today is the answer to stick to the dome.
 
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
Dynamat today is the answer to stick to the dome.
Strictly, the Dynamat product for heat insulation is probably Dynaliner. Dynamat run a whole range of lining materials, each with its own features and application.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2023 | 04:27 PM
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Original Dynamat is an anti drumming liner so you would not hear rain on your dome as an example. But you are correct ~ today they make a vast array of products.
 
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Out in the rain, heavy rain? Shock, horror!
 
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Hey thanks for all the info Glyn, I appreciate it mate!
 
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Old Oct 14, 2023 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter3442
Apart from looking nice, lambswool has the advantage of being shrinkable. If an area requires tension to remove ripples or sagging, local steaming should correct it.

The original insulation material stuck to the roof behind the headlining is filthy stuff that resembles old fashioned carpet underlay or extremely compressed fluff. In fact, some restorers used to replace it with carpet underlay. It produces a lot of dust that can pass through the lambswool and make it look dirty. If you use the original insulation or replace it with similar, it may be worth covering it with a tight weave fabric to protect the lambswool. My guess is that the main purpose of the insulation is to insulate against heat. If I'm right, the modern materials used to stop noise, mainly by adding weight, might not be the best option.

Making and fitting the headlining isn't easy. It's one of those jobs that requires a very good shop; otherwise it's do it yourself slowly and carefully. The area around the rear screen is particularly awkward. The fabric should follow the perimeter of the glass and be fitted underneath the rubber seal. It's very tempting, or even advisable, to abandon originality and make a screen surround in wood to match the rest of the interior and/or aluminium suitably upholstered and covered with lambswool.

Thanks Peter. I'm most likely going to have a pro do it, though either way at least I know what material to use, and how it's done when done properly.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2023 | 07:08 AM
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Hey thanks for all the info Glyn, I appreciate it mate!
It's only a pleasure. It was part of my research anyway. I was in London on business & took a few days off to go and visit all the suppliers I was going to use and found those I would never use. Just listen to Jon (for Jonathan), he knows his stuff ~ John Skinner was his Dad after whom the business is named.
 

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