I jave just purchased a non start 1999 S-Type 3.0L with No Crank.
what could be the possible issued to fix for the car to start or where and what to look at?

I need your help please.

VIN : SAJAA01E2XFL16374

attached scan codes for support.

 

To begin, make sure the battery is fully charged.

Next, look at the bezel at the base of the shift lever. Unless the P or N is illuminated, the starter operation is inhibited. If P or N is not illuminated, try wiggling the shift lever and see if that helps.

Look at the security system indicator at the base of the windshield. Lock the car with the key fob. Press the lock button a second time to set the alarm system. The horn should chirp once. Watch the little red light. It should flash once every few seconds to show the system is armed. Now press the key fob unlock button twice to unlock all the doors. The red light should go out. Now hop in the driver's seat and turn the key to RUN (Not start yet). The red light should come on solid ONCE for about 3 seconds and then go out. If it flashes anything after that, you've got a stored fault and the security system may have inhibited the starter.

If all steps so far are good, locate relay R15 in the fusebox under the hood. Place your finger on R15 and have a helper turn the key to start. You should feel this relay click, even if the starter doesn't respond. If the relay clicks, that tells us the control circuit is sending the proper signal for the starter to engage. If no click, swap with another relay of the same size and try again, in case the relay itself was at fault. R10 (blower motor) would be a good donor for a swap. As long as your heater/AC fan is working properly, you'd know R10 is good.

More stuff we can try, but run through these preliminary steps first.

 

All the steps have been followed with no luck.
When key is turn on, ignition cluster lights goes off.

No power for injectors to spray fuel as well

 

P1000 is no surprise

P1260 is a big worry

C code - another day

U code - hmm

If they're all just pending then back to basics to start any petrol engine

Though the P1260 may be it. If it is, I'd expect a flash code on the PATS light. Be patient with ignition on, but if no flashing it's just a puzzle for me.

 

Ooh, I didn’t see those screenshots when I initially replied. I’m no expert on the anti-theft system, but with P1260, I would also expect a flashing code on the indicator light. Not sure what to suggest next.

 

On the other side, why there is no power to the injectors, what fault is causing that?

 

i added the screenshots after you have replied.

 

In case it's PATS (immo) I gather it can disable the injectors.

 

Did the car come with the proper key? If not, and the replacement key has not been programmed to the car, this will trigger the anti-theft system.

 

yes the key is original, according to the seller the car came with no fault and was drivable but was left to sat for 5yrs without starting the engine.

 

Just noticed you say No crank. That means bad battery / power - so hunt about that.

If you mean crank but no start then very different.

 

we have good strong battery on the car, but lack the power to crank and start the engine, injectors gets no power to spray fuel

 

PATS has a starter interrupt it will never crank. wrong key, missing chip, transceiver is busted or TX line is cut

cluster will store a B code for whatever is wrong, pats led blinks out a two digit code that’s equivalent to a b code.

 

OP says no PATS code - most odd.

 

Hi, we have recently notice that the car has a steering is locked and does not open when the key is turned on that's the reason the car does not crank or start.

Is there any method to have the fixed to release the steering have the ignition turn on and start the car?

Thanks

Mike

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Mike, I've merged your new thread with the original as it's the same problem.

Are you sure you have the correct key? Does it open the doors and the trunk?

If you are not sure do not try to lock the doors as any key can lock them possibly creating a whole new problem.

 

electric steering lock. like i said make sure you can talk to the cluster. S-Type is PATS C

https://www.motorcraftservice.com/pdf/pats_job_aid.pdf

 

Hi Norri, the key and its FOB locks and opens the doors and the trunk.

 

Please define "good strong battery". Is this the same battery from when the car sat for 5 years? Even if recharged, it would be no good after such a long period of inactivity.

Try searching online for "Ford P1260" or similar. PATS was a Ford system, so many other vehicles of that era have had that code, not just Jaguar. I noticed a common theme of PATS being triggered after excessive cranking of the starter. Some unspecified fault (not security related) would keep the engine from starting. Then, in the process of cranking and cranking the starter, the battery would get run down and PATS interpreted this new pattern as a theft attempt. In addition to setting P1260, power would be removed from the injectors and often (but not always) the starter would be inhibited.

Sound familiar? If you have another known-good battery, it might be worth trying that. At a very minimum, measure the battery voltage while you try to start. I've seen batteries test fine at rest but drop off dramatically under load.


See my comments above. This is not a root cause. It's a normal response by PATS when it thinks there's been a theft attempt.

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Mike, I think you've got the cart before the horse. Please see my previous message about power to the starter and injectors. Not all cars have a steering lock, but when activated, I believe that's a normal response by PATS to a perceived theft attempt.