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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 07:37 AM
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We purchased a 2000 , s-type with 105,000.
200 dollars, but no engine ECU they said garage lost it ...
Anyway can i replace it with out having to reprogram , or do i buy all 3 computers from same car.
 

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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikedarija1
We purchased a 2000 , s-type with 105,000.
200 dollars, but no engine ECU they said garage lost it ...
Anyway can i replace it with out having to reprogram , or do i buy all 3 computers from same car.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you probably are looking at a $200 paperweight. On the early models (1999-2002), you can NOT swap the PCM (Powertrain Control Module, same as the "engine ECU"?) from one vehicle to another.

Here's the info, straight from Jaguar, via Gus:


http://www.jagrepair.com/images/Trai...es/870B_SG.pdf


Read pages 1-8 through 1-10. It describes how once the VIN is written into memory, it cannot be overwritten.

The note on page 1-10 is even clearer:

"Once a PCM is configured to a vehicle, it cannot be reconfigured to another vehicle."

The same page also mentions: "The new PCM must be configured to the instrument pack as part of the security system set-up. If this is not carried out, the engine will not start."


So in other words, if you wanted to bring this car back to life, you will need to find a new, never-configured PCM. That will probably have to come from the dealer, which will be spendy. Even if you find another source, some dealer-level programming will still be required. Don't waste your money trying a used PCM from eBay, etc. Per the manual above, it will not work.

Wish I had better news for you.



 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 09:29 AM
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Or... I suppose you can swap all the modules related to VID block / VIN info / immo.

Also, the ones you put in must match the details of your car very closely - so closely that they don't know they've been swapped in.

I guess at least PCM, ICM (cluster) and REM/FEM and ... not sure if others.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 09:35 AM
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Or... I suppose you can swap all the modules related to VID block / VIN info / immo.

Also, the ones you put in must match the details of your car very closely - so closely that they don't know they've been swapped in.

I guess at least PCM, ICM (cluster) and REM/FEM and ... not sure if others.
​​​​​im going to see if garage can find old ECU first
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JagV8
Or... I suppose you can swap all the modules related to VID block / VIN info / immo.

Also, the ones you put in must match the details of your car very closely - so closely that they don't know they've been swapped in.

I guess at least PCM, ICM (cluster) and REM/FEM and ... not sure if others.
what happens if a computer is put in from a donor car, does it still turn over or just shut off fuel
 
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Anti-theft. Don't do it!
 
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 11:44 AM
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^^^Heed reply^^^
 
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An update: Apparently the information from the training guide is no longer accurate. Please see post #5 in this thread:

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...6/#post2061321


I'm not well versed in all of the details of the reprogramming required. I'm only reporting that it can be done, despite what the training guide said.
 
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Be cautious because another Tech has said not doable with a used PCM on the 99-02 cars (unless you also carry over the related modules).
 
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Originally Posted by JagV8
Be cautious because another Tech has said not doable with a used PCM on the 99-02 cars (unless you also carry over the related modules).

Yes, yes, good point. I was just trying to clean up my previous blanket statement that you couldn't do it under any circumstances. Blameshifting, so to speak.

Details? I'm fuzzier than a baby peach on how to actually do the swap. Be sure to ask first and hopefully somebody more in the know can chime in.
 
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