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Old Apr 19, 2016 | 02:56 PM
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Hello everyone, I have 2 issues that I need help with. I recently purchased a 2000 jaguar a type, 3.0 with 120k miles.I took it for the state inspection and was informed that there is no check engine light at all. When the key is turned to the second position the check engine light doesn't come on with the other lights. It won't pass inspection.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2016 | 05:02 PM
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What's an LF repeater?

The lack of a check engine light is a fail for most smog tests. You'll need to get it fixed one way or the other.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2016 | 10:32 PM
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If the MIL fails to come on when the ignition is turned to 'run', the bulb is most likely burnt out or there is a problem with the wiring circuit or loom.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2016 | 10:39 PM
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If the MIL fails to come on when the ignition is turned to 'run', the bulb is most likely burnt out or there is a problem with the wiring circuit or loom.
Thank you very much.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2016 | 11:26 PM
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What's an LF repeater?

i believe it is terminology for an indicator/blinker !
 
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Old Apr 20, 2016 | 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by papalarge57
.....I took it for the state inspection and was informed that there is no check engine light at all. When the key is turned to the second position the check engine light doesn't come on with the other lights. It won't pass inspection.
Welcome to the forum papalarge,

The CEL (also knows as MIL - Malfunction Indicator Light) should illuminate when the ignition is switched on. This is simply a bulb check. it should then go out when the engine is started.

Very unusual for this not to work. I suspect it may have been deliberately disconnected in an attempt to disguise an actual error code being set that was causing it to display during running.

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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 01:58 AM
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Thank you everyone for your help. Does anyone know how I can get to it to make it work?
 
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 02:10 AM
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Thank you datsport. It's also saying left side repeater. I take it that, that is the same thing? Would the cause of be a bad relay?
 
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 04:38 AM
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No it's separate issue to the cel/mil ! If you switch your left indercator on and check to see it is infact not working then the indercator bulb will probably be blown , as for the cel/mil you need to pull the speedo cluster out to check the bulb , hopefully it is blown too or worse as stated removed ! There will be a Giude on the forum some were to do so ! I have read that the dash cluster wireing loom is very delicate , so be careful not to pull or bend any wires !
 

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I have worked on too many cars and it most likely has been removed because the last guy could not figure out how to fix the car. As was stated above. More common than you think.

They RARELY burn out! But yes before you start the car turn the key to the on position so all your dash lights come on. Your MIL (check engine light) should be on.

Understand how the electrical system works because it's different than how they use to work. Check the bulb but it's probably OK. Maybe even change it just to be sure. But we have a switched ground electrical system in the S Type. So the REM (Rear Electronics Module) is responsible for switching that ground on.

If it's a front blinker or light then the FEM (Front Electronics Module) is responsible for that. So after checking the bulbs I would suspect either of these modules. No they won't set a code either!

Have you read the codes? What are they?
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 09:46 PM
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No it's separate issue to the cel/mil ! If you switch your left indercator on and check to see it is infact not working then the indercator bulb will probably be blown , as for the cel/mil you need to pull the speedo cluster out to check the bulb , hopefully it is blown too or worse as stated removed ! There will be a Giude on the forum some were to do so ! I have read that the dash cluster wireing loom is very delicate , so be careful not to pull or bend any wires !
Thank you very much for your patience. I'm not familiar yet with the s type and not having a manual at the moment of any type isn't helping matters. So my jaguar family here are my professors and classmates. Now is the speedo cluster also where the check engine bulb is located? Also what is the cel and mil, and where are they located?
 
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I have worked on too many cars and it most likely has been removed because the last guy could not figure out how to fix the car. As was stated above. More common than you think.

They RARELY burn out! But yes before you start the car turn the key to the on position so all your dash lights come on. Your MIL (check engine light) should be on.

Understand how the electrical system works because it's different than how they use to work. Check the bulb but it's probably OK. Maybe even change it just to be sure. But we have a switched ground electrical system in the S Type. So the REM (Rear Electronics Module) is responsible for switching that ground on.

If it's a front blinker or light then the FEM (Front Electronics Module) is responsible for that. So after checking the bulbs I would suspect either of these modules. No they won't set a code either!

Have you read the codes? What are they?
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Thank you clubairth, no I haven't seen the codes, and I made a mistake. The message in the dashboard says LH repeater and left side repeater not LF, I'm sorry about that. Where might I find the FEM? When I turn on the left signal the indercater light in the dash blinks fast. Outside, the left rear signal blinks at its normal speed. The left front signal doesn't blink anymore. Disconnecting the battery didn't reset it or the computer. I don't know what else to do.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 10:17 PM
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It'll be the bulb holder burnt up. You can try an clean it up, I've just put some aluminium foil in mine, too early to say if it worked.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 10:31 PM
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It'll be the bulb holder burnt up. You can try an clean it up, I've just put some aluminium foil in mine, too early to say if it worked.
I hear that, I hope it works to.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 10:36 PM
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Me too new ones are priced like fairy dust.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by papalarge57
... not having a manual at the moment of any type isn't helping matters...
You can download JTIS and the wiring diagrams at no charge from this forum. Check the 'sticky' section of the forum.
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...Now is the speedo cluster also where the check engine bulb is located? Also what is the cel and mil, and where are they located?
Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) is the correct name for the 'check-engine-light' or 'cel' that most people use on this forum. The MIL is located on the instrument cluster and you must use a code reader to identify the DTCs (Diagnostic Trouble Code)s contained in the vehicle system to determine the exact problem with the vehicle.
 
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