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Old Aug 21, 2021 | 08:21 AM
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Hi all and thx for any support !

I have a Jag Stype R with p0610 error.

A few days ago, I reprogrammed the climate module (after changing the valve and repairing the pcb) but during the VID update, the battery was not very charged and the tcm went into error. I used a mongoose cable (in my opinion it is not very good, I prefer VCM). I used IDS Legacy (of course), latest version 161. In addition to the TCM module(error p0610), I have had error on ABS (U2202) and ECM module (p1582, b0447).

Error P0610, requires programming the TCM module, with the Mongoose cable it seems to work, but the error remains ... My ebay supplier (mongoose), told me that I have to buy a TOPIX access if I want to program with Mongoose. .. I tried with IDS 130 (offline) but the error doesn't go away.
A long time ago I had a VCM 078 00496, clone (top clone version) but it broke. 2 days ago I bought a VCM original without cable ... unfortunately the LAN cable of the VCM clone I don't think it fits on genuine VCM (i can't see the connection on realtek usb lan cable ). The cable is H406 with 7 pins (Pin1,2,3,5,6,7,10). Can you help me if there is a LAN scheme for original VCM, or a shop where to buy cables or the WIFI interface?

Thank you very much!!

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I have all photos ; errors, diagnostic, pcb mongoose interface and pcb VCM original interface.
 

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Old Aug 21, 2021 | 09:57 AM
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That's a weird set of codes - what's occurred to this poor car?

Rodent feasting?
 
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Old Aug 21, 2021 | 10:12 AM
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First, you never program any module without a power source on the battery. Secondly, as you see - your playing with fire when attempting to program any module with a clone.

Hate to say it but you might've bricked your TCM while trying to reflash it.

Sometimes, you have to reflash the ECM, then TCM - but... you need to get legit programming and a legit interface!

Good luck.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2021 | 10:26 AM
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I see your problem as a power supply issue. Forget using a battery charger and get a real 55 Amp 12VDC power supply with low ripple and low noise.
Is the battery icon green and not yellow or red on the SDD screen?
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Old Aug 21, 2021 | 06:43 PM
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you can still buy the genuine vcm cables but they’re like a billion dollars


https://rotunda.service-solutions.com/en-US/Pages/ItemDetail.aspx?itemVID=22688


make a power supply from an old server psu or just hook up jumper cables in a pinch. why did you reflash your CCM in the first place
 

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Old Aug 22, 2021 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by JagV8
That's a weird set of codes - what's occurred to this poor car?

Rodent feasting?
Hi,

no, lol... battery down when configure ccm
 
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Old Aug 22, 2021 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by abonano
First, you never program any module without a power source on the battery. Secondly, as you see - your playing with fire when attempting to program any module with a clone.

Hate to say it but you might've bricked your TCM while trying to reflash it.

Sometimes, you have to reflash the ECM, then TCM - but... you need to get legit programming and a legit interface!

Good luck.
Hi,

thx for informations. The tcm only need to reprogram. I have bought ORIGINAL VCM ROTUNDA, but I need a cable usb to VCM.

Thx
 
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Old Aug 22, 2021 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by clubairth1
I see your problem as a power supply issue. Forget using a battery charger and get a real 55 Amp 12VDC power supply with low ripple and low noise.
Is the battery icon green and not yellow or red on the SDD screen?
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Battery in ssd have a green color.
 

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Old Aug 22, 2021 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by xalty
you can still buy the genuine vcm cables but they’re like a billion dollars


https://rotunda.service-solutions.co...?itemVID=22688


make a power supply from an old server psu or just hook up jumper cables in a pinch. why did you reflash your CCM in the first place
Thx for a link! Interesting! I have a cable "clone" i think 🤔

About cccm i confure it, but when the ids update VID , the tcm go in error 🤦🏻‍♂️
 
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Old Aug 22, 2021 | 09:41 AM
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I have this cable.

Vcm genuine

Vcm pcb genuine

Clone cable (identical??? I think no)
 
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Old Aug 22, 2021 | 03:29 PM
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I did not know the VCM was ever cloned?
All I have seen and used is a cloned Mongoose cable from Drew Technologies?
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Old Aug 22, 2021 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by clubairth1
I did not know the VCM was ever cloned?
All I have seen and used is a cloned Mongoose cable from Drew Technologies?
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they used to be cloned in the early 2010s

the vcm 2 made it irrelevant
 
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Old Aug 22, 2021 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by xalty
they used to be cloned in the early 2010s

the vcm 2 made it irrelevant
Yep but the vcm2 not work with old jaguar ... only from 2010 i think.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2021 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ^SiRtA^
I have this cable.

Vcm genuine

Vcm pcb genuine

Clone cable (identical??? I think no)
you might be the first person i have heard of who needed to re-flash the CCM.

i am certain the clone cables are not good . and can cause cold sweats and vomiting .
btw Cambo has a thread some were about the differences of the units and cables .
the genuine Rotunda VCM/1 unit has gold solders and the clone has silver or lead internally .
yours looks legit . though cables im not sure of the differences .
but i'm sure you need the correct cable . about $300nzd if you can find one .
Cambo also had a link to some new ones a wile back . MIGHT BE WORTH A TRY .
BTW my TCM was reprogrammed with an Autologic PRO scan tool a couple of years ago, when i had to replace the TCM .
so the VCM can be worked around on some modules .
 
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Old Aug 23, 2021 | 01:37 AM
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this may help

https://forums.jag-lovers.com/t/genu...one-vcm/382890

also this
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/g...-label-215010/
 

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Old Aug 23, 2021 | 04:39 AM
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Thankyou !

Yes i see all pictures and informations... my VCM is genuine, good. Now i need good cable

[QUOTE=Datsports;2431600]questo può aiutare

https://forums.jag-lovers.com/t/genu...one-vcm/382890

anche questo
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/general tech-help-7 / vcm-blue-vs-red-label-215.010 / [/ QUOTE]
 
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Old Aug 23, 2021 | 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Datsports
you might be the first person i have heard of who needed to re-flash the CCM.

i am certain the clone cables are not good . and can cause cold sweats and vomiting .
btw Cambo has a thread some were about the differences of the units and cables .
the genuine Rotunda VCM/1 unit has gold solders and the clone has silver or lead internally .
yours looks legit . though cables im not sure of the differences .
but i'm sure you need the correct cable . about $300nzd if you can find one .
Cambo also had a link to some new ones a wile back . MIGHT BE WORTH A TRY .
BTW my TCM was reprogrammed with an Autologic PRO scan tool a couple of years ago, when i had to replace the TCM .
so the VCM can be worked around on some modules .
Ok i want try, this is a good interface (VCM genuine). My tcm only need to reprogram. The error is occurred because i configured CCM and when ids tryed to update VID gone in error (abs, tcm etc) ... i used Mongoose cable, not good i think for this cars. My Mongoose supplier, insist i need to buy topix account to reprogram TCM with mongoose cable... BAAAH ! I think only solution is VCM genuine with IDS.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2021 | 05:33 AM
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I think only solution is VCM genuine with IDS.
or like I said ,
mic you have trouble finding a cable .
a licensed professional tool such as Autologic loaded with jaguar will work .
and possibly others Too .
 

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Old Aug 23, 2021 | 10:34 AM
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you don’t need topix to reprogram with sdd in legacy mode. you need a half decent j2534 cable. the da-dongle is the cheapest and JLR approved. forget about the mongoose, real or fake.


i also know a guy who was selling vcm 1 cables. i’ll try to source it for you if he still has them.
 

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Old Aug 23, 2021 | 11:03 AM
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or like I said ,
mic you have trouble finding a cable .
a licensed professional tool such as Autologic loaded with jaguar will work .
and possibly others Too .
Thankyou bro!

In 2010 i've reprogram/update perfectly TCM and ECM with VCM , i think this VCM now i have, is perfect... i need only cable
 
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