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Old Mar 21, 2015 | 01:47 AM
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I'm back once to ask for help with what's going on with my car. It seems as when I'm in first and going to second it pulls a little harder like you feel a drag when it shifts I know the tranny has more than likely never been replaced or serviced and I'm just curious as if it's possible to replace the tranny fluid or do I have to replace the whole tranny? I read that it's sealed for life and at 100k its recommend to replace and right now the odometer has 138,041 miles. If I have to replace the transmission how realistic is it to replace it with a manual tranny instead of a automatic? And also what is the average engine life expectancy for my car? I appreciate the help from everybody, please feel free to comment I'm here to learn and help where I can, just like everybody else.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2015 | 02:20 AM
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There are dozens of threads pointing out it's not sealed for life and about what to do / where to buy etc. Search is your friend here....
 
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Old Mar 21, 2015 | 08:35 AM
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get a service manual and find ATF replacement on youtube
 
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Old Mar 21, 2015 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by car5car
get a service manual and find ATF replacement on youtube
Are all transmissions the same? I found video for a xj8 but nothing really that goes in depth for the s-type? Do you know what fluid I need? And will I need a pump to put the oil back in?
 
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Old Mar 21, 2015 | 12:13 PM
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Your 2005 S-Type has the ZF 6HP26 transmission. The fresh ATF you select should meet the Shell 1375.4 specs for transmission fluid. The factory fill is Lifeguard 6 and although its price has gradually come down as the years have passed, it is still quite expensive when compared to alternative ATFs that also meet the required specs (such as Mercon SP). Yes, you will need a pump to add your fresh transmission fluid. That step is done underneath the car with the engine running, so watch out for the hot exhaust pipes. Doing an ATF drain-and-fill on these ZFs is a precise undertaking in which all the steps must be completed in proper sequence at the required temperature. Read the numerous threads here on the forum regarding how to do it and be sure to have a full understanding of the process from start to finish before you begin. Loosen your fill plug BEFORE you remove your drain plug since it is foolish to drain your existing ATF if you cannot remove your fill plug....

Keep in mind that a ZF drain-and-fill is much easier to accomplish correctly if two people are involved in the process. One works the gearshift from the drivers seat while the other pumps in the fresh fluid underneath the car, all while the engine is running and the temperature of the bottom of the ZF pan registers in the proper range....
 

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Old Mar 21, 2015 | 12:36 PM
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Your 2005 S-Type has the ZF 6HP26 transmission. The fresh ATF you select should meet the Shell 1375.4 specs for transmission fluid. The factory fill is Lifeguard 6 and although its price has gradually come down as the years have passed, it is still quite expensive when compared to alternative ATFs that also meet the required specs (such as Mercon SP). Yes, you will need a pump to add your fresh transmission fluid. That step is done underneath the car with the engine running, so watch out for the hot exhaust pipes. Doing an ATF drain-and-fill on these ZFs is a precise undertaking in which all the steps must be completed in proper sequence at the required temperature. Read the numerous threads here on the forum regarding how to do it and be sure to have a full understanding of the process from start to finish before you begin. Loosen your fill plug BEFORE you remove your drain plug since it is foolish to drain your existing ATF if you cannot remove your fill plug....

Keep in mind that a ZF drain-and-fill is much easier to accomplish correctly if two people are involved in the process. One works the gearshift from the drivers seat while the other pumps in the fresh fluid underneath the car, all while the engine is running and the temperature of the bottom of the ZF pan registers in the proper range....
Thank you so much. Do you know how many liters it takes? I read here that it takes 10 and I also read that it takes 6 so I'm confused?

So first step is to make sure the fill plug is able to be loosened/taken off.
Second is to drain the transmission fluid.
Third is to take the oil pan off and replace( since the filter is in the pan)?
Fourth is secure the pan back on.

Now for the filling part I need help? With step by step so I make sure not to mess anything up. And when the person is going thru the gears do they just turn the car on have it in park and the EPB on and go thru the gears giving it no gas or how does this work since I do not have a lift?
 
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Old Mar 21, 2015 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MatthewAdan
Now for the filling part I need help? With step by step so I make sure not to mess anything up. And when the person is going thru the gears do they just turn the car on have it in park and the EPB on and go thru the gears giving it no gas or how does this work since I do not have a lift?
Servicing the ZF 6HP26 trans in your car has been covered ad nauseum on this forum, all you have to do is search. There's even a link posted that will take you to a YouTube video by ZF that shows the proper way to drain/refill.

Please take the time to search first before asking questions. Thanks!
 
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Old Mar 22, 2015 | 09:01 AM
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I've done the fluid service on my 2005 S Type. I've also did it on VW Passat where the new fluid had to be pumped up into transmission while engine is running. The best advise I can add to what's given above is this:

Get a garden hose sprayer, the ones with manual pump to pressurize. One gallon size is best. Heat up the sprayer tip and when bendable, bend it into J hook shape. Let it cool into the shape. Open up the tip of sprayer so there is no spraying, just stream of liquid. Fill up the sprayer bottle with new trans fluid and use the pressurized fluid transfer device for under $15. You can control the flow with built in trigger on the sprayer wand. This made it so much easier than trying to hand pump while under the car on jack stands and with engine running.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2015 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyX
I've done the fluid service on my 2005 S Type. I've also did it on VW Passat where the new fluid had to be pumped up into transmission while engine is running. The best advise I can add to what's given above is this:

Get a garden hose sprayer, the ones with manual pump to pressurize. One gallon size is best. Heat up the sprayer tip and when bendable, bend it into J hook shape. Let it cool into the shape. Open up the tip of sprayer so there is no spraying, just stream of liquid. Fill up the sprayer bottle with new trans fluid and use the pressurized fluid transfer device for under $15. You can control the flow with built in trigger on the sprayer wand. This made it so much easier than trying to hand pump while under the car on jack stands and with engine running.
Thank you I'll probably go get one today and start planning to put the new tranny fluid for next weekend. Can you please give me step by step instructions on how to do it please just so I know for a fact I'm doing it right. Thanks!
 
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Old Mar 23, 2015 | 07:23 AM
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Here is the best DIY by fellow member ccc. BE SURE to break loose the FILL PLUG BEFORE draining transmission fluid!


https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...ics-faq-30991/
 
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Old Mar 23, 2015 | 09:16 AM
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Rick's link to ccc's write was what I used to do mine.

Brief outline from my experience:
1. put car on jack stands and make sure the car is level
2. break loose fill plug using allen wrench cut to 0.75 inch length. 8mm hand wrench used to turn this on the fill plug
3. drain trans oil using drain plug on bottom of pan
4. remove pan using T40 or T45 torx on the fasteners(if replacing pan/filter)
5. remove replace electrical sleeve o-ring(if replacing the o-ring)
6. install new pan/filter(if replacing pan/filter)
7. initial fill the pan using the pressurized garden pump(about 2 quarts)
8. start engine, and fill rest of capacity(about 2 more quarts until it overflows the fill hole)
9. check temp of pan at 40deg C
10. at the temp and oil stops overflowing out of fill hole, close the fill plug and turn off engine.
 

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Old Mar 23, 2015 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by joycesjag
Here is the best DIY by fellow member ccc. BE SURE to break loose the FILL PLUG BEFORE draining transmission fluid!


https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...ics-faq-30991/
Originally Posted by TonyX
Rick's link to ccc's write was what I used to do mine.

Brief outline from my experience:
1. put car on jack stands and make sure the car is level
2. break loose fill plug using allen wrench cut to 0.75 inch length. 8mm hand wrench used to turn this on the fill plug
3. drain trans oil using drain plug on bottom of pan
4. remove pan using T40 or T45 torx on the fasteners(if replacing pan/filter)
5. remove replace electrical sleeve o-ring(if replacing the o-ring)
6. install new pan/filter(if replacing pan/filter)
7. initial fill the pan using the pressurized garden pump(about 2 quarts)
8. start engine, and fill rest of capacity(about 2 more quarts until it overflows the fill hole)
9. check temp of pan at 40deg C
10. at the temp and oil stops overflowing out of fill hole, close the fill plug and turn off engine.
Thank you I plan on buying 7 quartz of Lifeguard 6 for the tranny fluid, hand pump and filter on Friday. I'll post pics and instructions step by step on what I did with the information just like ccc did so anybody who had trouble finding it like i did will be able to get the help they need since the post is more up to date.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2015 | 12:02 PM
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Don't forget to replace the rubber sleeve as well when you have the trans pan/filter removed!
 
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