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Old Nov 15, 2022 | 09:18 AM
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Hey great job doing the key transponders! That's the hard one to do the FOBS are easier.

Here is how the FOBS are programmed without using SDD. Note that you can also do the FOB inside SDD too.

Lower portion of Key Fob programming of the four button remote portion.
NOTE: When carrying out steps 4 to 6 below, all current transmitters will be erased from memory. Ensure all transmitters to be programmed are available before proceeding.

NOTE: If at any stage two chirps are emitted, then an error has occurred, if this is the case, the process has to be repeated from step 1. When carrying out steps 1 to 7, ensure no other transmitters are operated within range of the system (which should not happen if you have all of the key fobs with you in the car and no one else is playing with them).

1. Open driver door (door must be open throughout the programming process).
2. Pull directional indicator stalk to headlight flash position and hold.
3. Insert ignition key and turn to auxiliary position (position I, first click), then release the directional indicator Stalk right away.
4. Within 4 seconds start to flash headlights five times by pulling/releasing the stalk repeatedly; at the
fourth/fifth time you hear a chirp from the sounder and the PATS Red LED security dome will flash once).

At this point all transmitters will be erased from the cars system.
The next step will program all of your push button remotes to your car.


5. NOTE: Up to five transmitters can be programmed. Now simply push the transmitter button (any
of the four buttons) on the remote that is in the ignition, and then within 5 seconds push any of the
four buttons on the next transmitter, etc. For each transmitter you do, it will be acknowledge by a chirp
from sounder, and the PATS LED will flash once (Do not repeat the complete sequence if you make
a mistake mid way as the first transmitter will be erased if you do).
6. Turn 'OFF' the ignition and remove the key, (acknowledge chirp from sounder, and the PATS LED will
flash once).
7. Close driver door. Now check each transmitter’s functions on each of the four buttons on each of your Fobs.



All should be working just fine. If not try again from step 1. It may take two try’s to get it correct as the
procedure is all about the speed, timing and doing it smoothly.

The PATS LED is the security dome in the middle of the dash, right up near the front window. If you make a mistake during the process, simply start all over from the beginning.
If your car has all audible alarms disabled (as mine does) you won't get the chirps, you just have to follow the LED flashing. You must flash quickly, then hit a button on one remote, then the other, then turn off the key. I would say it should take 5 seconds or less after releasing the stalk.
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Old Nov 15, 2022 | 12:08 PM
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I realized that I have never updated this thread about my new keys. The repair shop finally had to find a used module (they didn't say exactly what type module) to replace a dead one in my dash. After that they got my original key and the two new flip keys to work in the car. The extra "clone" key that the locksmith made could not be programmed by the repair shop. The original key fob still worked but they could not get the buttons on the flip keys to work. I now have the original key and separate fob that work and two flip keys that work manually. The whole process took over a month and cost me almost $700 just for two extra keys. I think that I will go back to owning cars that were built before the early 1990s.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2022 | 06:33 AM
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Hi

to reprogram a fob do I need to have 2 or more fobs or can I simply reprogram just one?
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 02:26 AM
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@ clubairth1: Thanks for your post. That "magic spell" was kind of familiar to me - it was one of those which I tried many times before on my 2005 S-Type to no avail. I just tried it on my 2004 S-Type anyway. Nope. Nothing. But I was also pretty confident (from all my many attempts before that this procedure (without a connected OBDII device) would not delete my only working remote. And it did not. Maybe this works on older models, like the 1999 S-Type, but not on '04 and '05 S-Type...
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 06:37 AM
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Yes we have seen this before and I think that's why Jaguar also included this function in SDD.
The first time I did a FOB it took forever because I kept messing it up but as the instructions say it takes a bit practice to smoothly and quickly go from step to step. The horn honks are key. If it does not respond something went wrong.
Now I don't seem to have much trouble doing the FOBS.
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 06:43 AM
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I really think that this "magic spell" might work only on older S-Type. I have done it now so many times, it cannot be "the way" I am doing it. I don't even get any "chirp" nor "blinking red light".
 
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 10:03 PM
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the light stalk dance only works on the 350

get a thinkdiag and it will program keys and remotes no problem
 
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Old Nov 18, 2022 | 01:53 AM
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I had a look on youtube, what kind of wizardry thinkdiag is. It seems to be a dongle for android phones, Not sure, what the dongle costs - looks like somewhere between AU$15 or ten times as much, but from what I have seen, this is by far not all, but there seems to be a yearly fee per vehicle on top of it, and I have seen a software price in that video of $129. So even, if you could be sure that it actually works for FOB programming on S-Type (which I don't think you can be), the associated costs could be a bottomless pit. That's not for me...
 
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Old Nov 18, 2022 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Peter_of_Australia
I had a look on youtube, what kind of wizardry thinkdiag is. It seems to be a dongle for android phones, Not sure, what the dongle costs - looks like somewhere between AU$15 or ten times as much, but from what I have seen, this is by far not all, but there seems to be a yearly fee per vehicle on top of it, and I have seen a software price in that video of $129. So even, if you could be sure that it actually works for FOB programming on S-Type (which I don't think you can be), the associated costs could be a bottomless pit. That's not for me...
it’s 80 usd for all vehicles. when the year is up you buy another one lol

the vin lock is old old news
 
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Old Feb 23, 2023 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by clubairth1
Hey great job doing the key transponders! That's the hard one to do the FOBS are easier.

Here is how the FOBS are programmed without using SDD. Note that you can also do the FOB inside SDD too.

Lower portion of Key Fob programming of the four button remote portion.
NOTE: When carrying out steps 4 to 6 below, all current transmitters will be erased from memory. Ensure all transmitters to be programmed are available before proceeding.

NOTE: If at any stage two chirps are emitted, then an error has occurred, if this is the case, the process has to be repeated from step 1. When carrying out steps 1 to 7, ensure no other transmitters are operated within range of the system (which should not happen if you have all of the key fobs with you in the car and no one else is playing with them).

1. Open driver door (door must be open throughout the programming process).
2. Pull directional indicator stalk to headlight flash position and hold.
3. Insert ignition key and turn to auxiliary position (position I, first click), then release the directional indicator Stalk right away.
4. Within 4 seconds start to flash headlights five times by pulling/releasing the stalk repeatedly; at the
fourth/fifth time you hear a chirp from the sounder and the PATS Red LED security dome will flash once).

At this point all transmitters will be erased from the cars system.
The next step will program all of your push button remotes to your car.


5. NOTE: Up to five transmitters can be programmed. Now simply push the transmitter button (any
of the four buttons) on the remote that is in the ignition, and then within 5 seconds push any of the
four buttons on the next transmitter, etc. For each transmitter you do, it will be acknowledge by a chirp
from sounder, and the PATS LED will flash once (Do not repeat the complete sequence if you make
a mistake mid way as the first transmitter will be erased if you do).
6. Turn 'OFF' the ignition and remove the key, (acknowledge chirp from sounder, and the PATS LED will
flash once).
7. Close driver door. Now check each transmitter’s functions on each of the four buttons on each of your Fobs.



All should be working just fine. If not try again from step 1. It may take two try’s to get it correct as the
procedure is all about the speed, timing and doing it smoothly.

The PATS LED is the security dome in the middle of the dash, right up near the front window. If you make a mistake during the process, simply start all over from the beginning.
If your car has all audible alarms disabled (as mine does) you won't get the chirps, you just have to follow the LED flashing. You must flash quickly, then hit a button on one remote, then the other, then turn off the key. I would say it should take 5 seconds or less after releasing the stalk.
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Hi, i tryed this method but didn't get thorugh part #4, did everything from #1 to #4 but got no chirp from the sounder and the PATS Red LED security dome didn't flash. did this for almost an houre as i thought i was doing something wrong.

my question is, as this involve holding the headlighs flasher and then flashing 4-5 times, Does both sides of headlamps need to be working?

As some of you know my left side headlamp isn't working right now, only right side is working. does this affect the process of deleting the existing fobs?

Thanks for any help
 

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Old Feb 23, 2023 | 09:26 AM
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for the 100000000000000th time

remotes can’t be added on a 03-08 jaguar s-type without ids.

if you have a 99-02 ford s-type, try this. if it does not work buy an ids or equivalent


1. Turn ignition from OFF to RUN 8 times within 10 seconds, with the 8th time ending in RUN. Door locks will cycle to confirm programming mode. (Off is the position where you can remove your key, RUN is the position just shy of starting your car.)

2. Within 20 seconds press any button on the first keyless remote to be programmed. Door locks will cycle to confirm programming. If you only have one remote then skip to step 4

3. Within 20 seconds, press any button on the second keyless remote. Door locks will cycle again to confirm programming. Repeat step 3 for all other remotes.

4. Turn ignition to OFF. Locks will again cycle to indicate end of programming mode.

 

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Old Feb 23, 2023 | 11:00 AM
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Thanks for the info!!!

Originally Posted by xalty
for the 100000000000000th time

remotes can’t be added on a 03-08 jaguar s-type without ids.
Don't know if is me or i feel that latetly your are getting mad every time i post, this is the second (consecutive) time your answers are like that, first time you got mad and answered something that i wasn't even asking. don't geet me wrong, i'm not mad and not trying to get this into a fight , just want to clarify that i'm relatively new to Jaguar and i'm fixing my car basicaly with all of your help as in my country not all of the mechanics work on jaguar, even the locksmith that i called yesterday to reprogram the fobs couldn't do it, others didn't want to do it. yesterday in the evening I remembered that i saw this topic several weeks ago and wanted to try if i could do it, but doesn't say what year is for, so i asumed that was going to work for mine.

Originally Posted by xalty
if you have a 99-02 ford s-type, try this. if it does not work buy an ids or equivalent


1. Turn ignition from OFF to RUN 8 times within 10 seconds, with the 8th time ending in RUN. Door locks will cycle to confirm programming mode. (Off is the position where you can remove your key, RUN is the position just shy of starting your car.)

2. Within 20 seconds press any button on the first keyless remote to be programmed. Door locks will cycle to confirm programming. If you only have one remote then skip to step 4

3. Within 20 seconds, press any button on the second keyless remote. Door locks will cycle again to confirm programming. Repeat step 3 for all other remotes.

4. Turn ignition to OFF. Locks will again cycle to indicate end of programming mode.
Mine is a 2001 i will try today this, Thanks again!!!


 
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Old Mar 6, 2023 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by xalty
if you have a 99-02 ford s-type, try this. if it does not work buy an ids or equivalent


1. Turn ignition from OFF to RUN 8 times within 10 seconds, with the 8th time ending in RUN. Door locks will cycle to confirm programming mode. (Off is the position where you can remove your key, RUN is the position just shy of starting your car.)

2. Within 20 seconds press any button on the first keyless remote to be programmed. Door locks will cycle to confirm programming. If you only have one remote then skip to step 4

3. Within 20 seconds, press any button on the second keyless remote. Door locks will cycle again to confirm programming. Repeat step 3 for all other remotes.

4. Turn ignition to OFF. Locks will again cycle to indicate end of programming mode.
Didn't work for me , well IDS is my only route. Thanks!!!
 
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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 03:31 PM
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Hi guys, as i mention in my last post in this thread i couldn't program the fob to the car with the method Xalty gave, my only option is with IDS but i still can get a cable to do it. i found this cable and ask to the seller if it would work to reprogram fob and key on a 2001 Jaguar S type and he told me that it will. I'm still with doubt and wanted to ask you if any one know if this will work on the car to reprogram Fob, key and read any errors. i have the software that i download from a link someone post, i think it is IDS124 or 125.

Link to the cable:
https://techroute66.com/product/mong...-thru-dongles/

Thanks for any input on this.
 
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Old May 5, 2024 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by xalty
for the 100000000000000th time

remotes can’t be added on a 03-08 jaguar s-type without ids.

if you have a 99-02 ford s-type, try this. if it does not work buy an ids or equivalent


1. Turn ignition from OFF to RUN 8 times within 10 seconds, with the 8th time ending in RUN. Door locks will cycle to confirm programming mode. (Off is the position where you can remove your key, RUN is the position just shy of starting your car.)

2. Within 20 seconds press any button on the first keyless remote to be programmed. Door locks will cycle to confirm programming. If you only have one remote then skip to step 4

3. Within 20 seconds, press any button on the second keyless remote. Door locks will cycle again to confirm programming. Repeat step 3 for all other remotes.

4. Turn ignition to OFF. Locks will again cycle to indicate end of programming mode.
This dont work on x200 ,2001, V8.
 
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Old May 5, 2024 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by e_brugal
Hi guys, as i mention in my last post in this thread i couldn't program the fob to the car with the method Xalty gave, my only option is with IDS but i still can get a cable to do it. i found this cable and ask to the seller if it would work to reprogram fob and key on a 2001 Jaguar S type and he told me that it will. I'm still with doubt and wanted to ask you if any one know if this will work on the car to reprogram Fob, key and read any errors. i have the software that i download from a link someone post, i think it is IDS124 or 125.

Link to the cable:
https://techroute66.com/product/mong...-thru-dongles/

Thanks for any input on this.
That cable supports jaguars from 2005 til 2017
 
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Old May 6, 2024 | 03:28 AM
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Probably WDS, for sure IDS with appropriate cable. Keep reading as it's been posted I feel.

Or a suitable locksmith.
 

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