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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 04:58 PM
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Hello everyone
looking for advice
non sat nav
Been reading posts on this but still coming up blank
For my 2003/04 s type
I am trying to change from my old radio that has the tape deck and 6 disk changer in the boot
to a radio with the single cd but it has the cdc button as well
from what I have read its like plug and play

Plugged replacement radio in
Put in radio code so far all good
radio works get all the local stations
single cd works
But when i press the cdc button for cds in boot i get nothing

Has anyone done this swap
And did you need to change any wiring
or would anyone have any pin out diagram
Or wiring diagram
I'm just thinking it could be a wire or two that are different
Photos of the two units below

photos 1 & 2 is what I would like to install

photos 3 & 4 is original

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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 06:43 PM
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The head unit likely needs the D2B network configured to look for the CDDJ in the boot?(and other things like TELEPHONE, VOICE RECOGNITION IF FITTED)

The X350 is similar and here is some info on the network.

There is an electrical signal and optic (light) signal on the D2B network for the head unit to communicate with the other modules.

Look for a BLINK signal on the Black Optic Fiber at the 'Compact Disk Disk Jockey' to see if the head unit is sending and looking for a return signal. The D2B is a LOOP network.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2025 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by motorcarman
The head unit likely needs the D2B network configured to look for the CDDJ in the boot?(and other things like TELEPHONE, VOICE RECOGNITION and other things IF FITTED)

The X350 is similar and here is some info on the network.

There is an electrical signal and optic (light) signal on the D2B network for the head unit to communicate with the other modules.

Look for a BLINK signal on the Black Optic Fiber at the 'Compact Disk Disk Jockey' to see if the head unit is sending and looking for a return signal. The D2B is a LOOP network.
Hello thank you for your reply
Electrical issues are not my strong point
rebuilding engines and transmissions not a problem
I know what the fiber optic cable is
I have put the original radio back in with the tape deck
and cd changer in boot works fine
I will have another go next week as got a couple of days off
I started reading somewhere but lost it when I had a ph call
That some units might need reconfiguration using jlr ids
as the vehicle it came from did not have cd changer in boot known me thats probably wrong
I will remove cd changer in boot on weekend to see if I can see a blinking light

Thank you
For the help
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Old Feb 26, 2025 | 07:10 PM
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Hello everyone if someone else tries to swap tape deck head unit for a single cd head unit and also have the cd Auto changer in the boot
and have problems with head unit not playing cdc
like I did
You will probably need to have original head unit and cdc Uninstalled
then have new one installed under programming
with Jlr ids sdd mongoose
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Old Mar 1, 2025 | 10:03 AM
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I have never had to program any of that?
I followed what motorcarman posted above. If the D2B network is wired in the correct order it will work. If not wired in the correct order it won't work.

I have added CD changers and removed them by just re-configuring the D2B cables. Did you look at the matrix that was posted in the above link?




The above is the key. You need the part numbers listed that match how many of these accessories you want installed.
ICE=In Car Entertainment
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Old Mar 2, 2025 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by clubairth1
I have never had to program any of that?
I followed what motorcarman posted above. If the D2B network is wired in the correct order it will work. If not wired in the correct order it won't work.

I have added CD changers and removed them by just re-configuring the D2B cables. Did you look at the matrix that was posted in the above link?




The above is the key. You need the part numbers listed that match how many of these accessories you want installed.
ICE=In Car Entertainment
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hi yes had a friend come around to help who is a auto Electrician
We had a bilnking light on the fiber optic cable but we kept getting cd error
so then I decided to try jlr ids and remove tape deck and cdc
then we added single cd player and cdc
Then everything worked straight away
I don't know why
I'm just guessing maybe since vehicle cd head unit came from was a 2006 mine is a 2004
And vehicle it came from never had cd changer in boot
I have it working now so happy

 
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Old Mar 3, 2025 | 02:26 AM
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On the cars made before January 2004 (05MY facelift) the head units are not just plug and play for d2b modules like CDC, phone etc.
Each module has to be activated in the head unit.
On non-nav screen cars like your one this requires the use of Jaguar IDS software. (SDD only works on the later facelift cars.)

Note: The head units on the later facelift cars made from January 2004 (05MY) are plug and play with all moduels pre-activated.
However, the voice control options, if you have that module fitted, need updating with every adittional new module fitted to the system again using the Jaguar software.)

Also note that on cars with the NAV screen the moduels can be added using the hidden menu. You do not have this option on a non-NAV screen car.

I hope that this maks the situation clear, even if it is probably not what you wanted to hear!
 

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Old Mar 3, 2025 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by clubairth1
I have never had to program any of that?
I followed what motorcarman posted above. If the D2B network is wired in the correct order it will work. If not wired in the correct order it won't work.

I have added CD changers and removed them by just re-configuring the D2B cables. Did you look at the matrix that was posted in the above link?




The above is the key. You need the part numbers listed that match how many of these accessories you want installed.
ICE=In Car Entertainment
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I have seen that there are radio with navi witch wil fit in seamlesly working on Android
[img alt="Android radio
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Android radio
 
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Originally Posted by M-e-l-l-o-w
On the cars made before January 2004 (05MY facelift) the head units are not just plug and play for d2b modules like CDC, phone etc.
Each module has to be activated in the head unit.
On non-nav screen cars like your one this requires the use of Jaguar IDS software. (SDD only works on the later facelift cars.)

Note: The head units on the later facelift cars made from January 2004 (05MY) are plug and play with all moduels pre-activated.
However, the voice control options, if you have that module fitted, need updating with every adittional new module fitted to the system again using the Jaguar software.)

Also note that on cars with the NAV screen the moduels can be added using the hidden menu. You do not have this option on a non-NAV screen car.

I hope that this maks the situation clear, even if it is probably not what you wanted to hear!
Hi thanks for the response
I tried what motorcarman said
Did not work
But definitely very good information to have on file
Yes I had to use ids to get everything to work
 
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Originally Posted by Darrol2004
Hi thanks for the response
I tried what motorcarman said
Did not work
But definitely very good information to have on file
Yes I had to use ids to get everything to work
I have never used IDS my STR uses the later SDD software.
However, if it is the same as SDD it will need a dedicated interface and windows XP PC that has a date re-set each time it starts and no internet connection.
You will also need a powerfull back up power supply.
Jaguar recommend 40 amps.
I use a 35amp variable voltage stabalised power supply set to 13.8v .
You need the ignition on without the engine running for some time and if the voltage drops, and it will, this will cut the link to the software mid way and can destroy the modules on the car as a result.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2025 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by M-e-l-l-o-w
I have never used IDS my STR uses the later SDD software.
However, if it is the same as SDD it will need a dedicated interface and windows XP PC that has a date re-set each time it starts and no internet connection.
You will also need a powerfull back up power supply.
Jaguar recommend 40 amps.
I use a 35amp variable voltage stabalised power supply set to 13.8v .
You need the ignition on without the engine running for some time and if the voltage drops, and it will, this will cut the link to the software mid way and can destroy the modules on the car as a result.
Hi yes correct
I purchased my diagnostic set up from a company in the United Kingdom called oliveston ltd
Trading under JLR IDS SDD MONGOOSE
I decided to bite the bullet and purchase
the dealer level system
it coast me 2k nzd
only because of the exchange rate
As £ 1 GBP IS around $2 NZD then you have shipping and gst when it gets to new Zealand
It came with a Panasonic cf d1 tablet
All software installed
mongoose cable
it dose has the SDD on it
since my jaguars are a 2003 and 2004
sdd wont work so switches over to IDS
which is for pre 2005 jaguars
but when I put it on my friends 2006 v6 s type it uses
sdd
I I guess you would have ids in your software
But when I work on my 2018 range rover I have to use
JLR PARTHFINDER
Thanking you
Darrol
 
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