For the tech reps:

I have seen the term re-flash electronic systems in several messages. When I go in for a scheduled service, in addition to the maintenance schedule items on the list does the service also include re-flashing the electronic systems? I'm assuming that Jaguar would release updates to their systems somewhat similar to what a software company would do with their products.

Thanks in advance,

Mike

 

I'm not a Dealer tech, so I can't answer...other than specific updates that are included in a service action or recall, like the one we've been reading about.

I just wanted to thank for posting the photo of the F Type, I hadn't seen that view. If Speed Racer's Mach 5 was ever going to come to fruition, that was the chance. Too bad it never happened.

 

If you are coming into the dealer for say, the 10k complimentary maintenance, reflashing of the modules is not a part of that service. Jaguar updates software whenever they feel an improvement in driveability/fuel mileage/functionality can be attained by a simple computer programming change or when required by law such as the J004 recall now in progress. Unfortunately, Jaguar doesn't always tell the techs exactly what is being changed when a module is reprogrammed. Usually the release notes for software updates read something like this, "the new software patch file for the IDS regarding 2005-2007 X-types will correct driveability concerns". They don't usually say which concerns. My personal attitude towards software updates is, if I'm using the IDS on your car and there is an updated software patch for either the ECM or TCM(x-types only, I dont mess with 6 speed software unless there is a complaint) I will do it while i'm using the equipment. Certainly not all techs do that and software updates are not considered mandatory by jaguar unless there is a specific service bulletin regarding the update and even then jaguar considers updates as a "perform if customer has this particular complaint" not a blanket fix for every car that rolls through the door.

 

JagTechOhio and Real_Tech,

Thanks for the input. I was more curious because it seems as though you guys almost have to be software experts in addition to knowing the mechanical aspects of car service. From my prospective as a customer the maintenance seems to be simple because it seems to be limited to changing/checking fluids and filters. In that respect modern Jaguars are fairly well designed, especially the running gear. Problem areas, at least based on message traffic appear to be concentrated on electronic control systems.

As an aside, when I had a 1971 240Z, it was very easy to work on since everything was out in the open. This was a good thing since I was always dicking with the carbs or some other task. Maintenance intervals were probably ten times more frequent than in a modern car. It was also pretty crude, but it went like hell. That was the last good Z car in my codger opinion. Power nothing but steering, brakes and clutch were real direct.

 

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