Hi All,
Looking for some help with next steps in a Washer Pump problem.

I posted this in the General Tech help but incorrectly put it down as an X-Type (long day, lots of searching on forums and got caught up in the X Type bits).

The car: S Type, 3ltr, T reg/1999 model, Auto box and Right Hand Drive.
The original thread
Thread in General Tech

To recap.
- Wiper arms swish when the switch is engaged.
- Fuse number 30 in the cabin fuse box is okay
- Relay number 4 in the engine bay power distribution box is okay.
- Good connectivity from the relay to pump
- The pump works when you connect 12v directly to it

Since the original thread i have tried
- Jumping terminal 3 and 5 in the relay to see if it will fire the pump, it doesn't.


- putting a test lamp between terminals 1 and 2, hitting the switch and looking for a light. There was no light.


Does this point to a connection between the switch and the relay?
Should terminal three in the relay box be live?

Any suggestions?

Thanks

 

And this is now solved.... Fuse 2 in the front power distribution box in the engine bay was blown.
Such an easy fix!

The owners manual has this fuse as not being used, seems a bit odd!

 

I am not sure, where you had been looking, but:
https://www.autogenius.info/jaguar-s...e-box-diagram/
Fuse 2 is a 10A Windshield Washer pump

 

Cheers,
I was looking in the owners manual that came with the car, if I would have seen the link you shared it could have saved a while lot of effort and trouble. At least I know the car a little bit more now.

Wonder what will need fixing next

 

I very rarely check the owners manual - simply, because normally I would not find an answer for anything in there.
Most of the answers are in google and in youtube.

 

...and of course there are the workshop manuals...
Check this link out in preparation for your next problem:

https://www.ocjaguarclub.org/downloads.html

First link on the list is for your 1999 S-Type
The 3rd one (Technical Guide) may also apply to your model (at least they mention your fuse 2 on page 85).
And the transmission repair manual is also there. In your 1999 (assuming it is an automatic) is probably the 5R55N and not the 6hp26.

Plus, even if there is nothing currently, which "needs fixing", there is probably amply of opportunity to do servicing to prevent future fixing needs, like a ATF (transmission fluid) full flush, ATF filter change and refil with the correct ATF (multi-vehicle ATF are not correct...)

 

Wow, thanks! Looks like I've got some bedtime reading.

It's is an auto box with 115k miles on the clock. I guess these were considered sealed units, but in reality a box oil change is a good thing to do. Is there a sign that it needs changing?

 

Oh yes: The sign is: 115k miles! It's definitely due, earlier would have been good.

There is nothing in reality like "Sealed for life" - only a "Sealed for death"... The vehicle manufacturer does not care what happens at the end of the warranty.
And the transmission manufacturer (ZF Friedrichshafen) never ever made any such claim like "Sealed for life" for its ZF 6hp26 transmission.

Recently I was told that when you do your first ATF change not early enough, it is too late to ever do one... - I would definitely not subscribe to that.
But in that context someone had a good idea:
Just in case it turns out like that that your NEW ATF causes problems...: In preparation of that possibility: drain your old ATF into a clean tub and make sure that you clean any surfaces, the to-be-drained ATF could come into contact with (not that you have later sand in your tub...). Keep the old ATF until you are sure that the new ATF does not cause problems, before you dispose the old ATF. Obviously, make sure that no dirt could fall meanwhile into the tub - or fill it into clean containers...

Here is my guide to do the full flush:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...s-type-264102/

Note that I have a later model (X204). opt sure, if you therefore need to do something else, however, the ATF would be different for your transmission, where I assume you have the 5R55N (Manufactured by Ford). I am not sure, which ATF you need for that. Just start a new thread here in the forum, someone will know, My guess would be Mercon V.

And since you have a different transmission from mine, also ask the question, if there is a "sleeve" for the TCM you need to change as well, and if there is an "adapter valve body". both need to be replaced in my transmission: The first one easily leaks, the second one likes to break and then causes all kinds of problems. And the ATF filter needs to be changed.

Other things to consider, if you want to "spend time with your Jag"...
Power steering fluid change, engine oil & filter change, fuel filter change, brake fluid change, change of coolant, removing and cleaning of all major ground connections. A rear axle oil change would also be nice.

 

Thanks again. I've just checked out your transmission fluid change thread. A tonne of info and research. Thanks for sharing.

​​​​​It looks like a reasonably fiddly and running consuming job, but one that is worthwhile. Love a job where you have to make your own tools.

I had, oil and filter change, brake fluid flush/change, but not power steering or rear axle oil change.
The other item I was thinking about was the aux/serpentine belt change. This looks fairly straightforward on the 3l duratec engine.

I just need the weather to warm up a little to make some of this more enjoyable.

 

An auto washer. What a great idea! My car regularly gets dirty, but I usually wash it myself. An auto washer would be very handy, especially on the fiddly bits of the wheels. Does anyone know where I can pick up one of these doodads?

 

@ Sportston: No, but lacking a garage, I know how to keep your Jag clean outside ion the weather:
1st layer: Old rugs, 2nd Layer: Professional hail-protect cover, 3rd layer: 3.6x6m tarps secured with cloth-line all around.
That will do, and in case you already arranged for an auto-washer, send him to your wife to assist with the dishes - she'll be delighted...

@MJS3: Yes, a ATF-change is a good idea. Just do some research, if In am right about you having a 5R55N, and do more research or ask others with that same model year Jag for advise - as some of my X204 might not work for your X200... And most of all, find out, which ATF is correct for your model. I do not now. And obviously a new drive-belt is always a good idea. Yes, no drama to change that. I think you simply use a ratchet (or better a "solid ratchet - whatever the proper name is") and extend it with a pipe to move the tensioner into the desired direction.

And general advise: Whenever you do anything on the car, where you might think putting it back together correctly might be a tad difficult, take pictures, so you know how it was before... - use several little bowl for bolts and label them, so you know, what goes where.

 

Thanks for the great advice, but I think she would find another use for him.

 

Well, you better not hire someone then, who has an anatomy like William Wallace or Sam Heughan (aka Jamie Fraser in Outlander)...
Just find someone, who is a wee bit less attractive for the lasses...

 

Ok. I’ll see if Bill Shatner is available.