hi everyone i have a 2005 s type 3.0 went in for service and dealer told me my transmission cooler lines r leaking he quoted me 2000 dollars to change these hoses has anyone ever had these changed before cause i find it very expensive for a couple of hoses plus i dont want to drive around with a leaking trans . do u have to drain the the zf fluid to change these hoses

 

I'd want a second opinion and maybe a 3rd too.

Also, why pay dealer prices for a job that's probably doable by any competent mechanic? I'd be looking at a tranny place.

However, read up about the tranny oil because they'll have to add/replace some and you may either wish to let the tranny guys choose what to use or make some input to that.

 

There are a couple of members here who reported this problem with their vehicles earlier this year. One of them is JOsworth. I don't believe he has addressed it yet because he believes that his transmission fluid loss has been very minimal thus far....

 

That's absurd. If a bunch of that price truly is in parts prices then have a look into having a hydraulic hose shop make new ones for you. Sometimes they re-use your old fittings so go with hoses in hand. I've done this on a number of vehicles. There are plenty of hose shops where you won't get "hosed". Those aren't going to service your car though. So find a decent shop too.

Bob S.

 

Do you have a stuart hose near you? They can custom make hoses.

 

thanks for answering i know it may be easy to change the hoses but do u know if u have to drain the whole zf oil to do this and since it was leaking u may need to add more fluid not something i want a regular mechanic to play aroud with this zf tranny is very sensitive so ive heard

 

There are threads on here discussing how to change the fluid and check the fluid level. It's somewhat tortureous to read. The idea of a sealed for life transmission is absurd but the none the less did not provide for a dipstick.

If you leak isn't bad you may have to just add a bit of fluid. If you're leaking a lot then stop driveing the car. No, really.

It does not mean you have to drain the entire tranmisson.

The hoses are for a cooler. More than likely one of the hoses is failing at the fitting. If the fittings are really unique to Jaguar then as I previously mentioned a good hydraulic hose shop can often re-utilze them and fix your hose. If they're vanilla stuff then it's easier.

Have you looked for aftermarket hoses?

You might want to try an AAMCO and see what they have to say.
They can actually flush and drain the trany & torque converter with a purpose built machine which might be a good idea depending on your mileage. So can a shop that uses a lot of BG Products. Google it.

They most likely will not get into having hoses made or yours repaired.

You need a good independant shop. I know of a good transmission shop in northern NJ (Union off rte 22) but that's a bit of a drive for you.

If there are still codes to clear when you're done then a final trip to the Jag dealer might be necessary???? But $2000, no.

Bring your own proper Jag approved fluid.

Bob S.

 

+1 (but that Castrol stuff someone mentioned or Mobil 1 will do for top up, far better to have enough in than exactly what it is)

The code clearing probably won't even be needed but is $100-200 at a dealer. Less on a good day.

 

That quote is way high, unless there is more to it than just the lines. The lines are about $180 or so plus perhaps 2 liters of fluid tops. Add labor....depends on what they are charging you...I charge about 4 hours on a 3.0 liter.

 

thanks for your reply i will ask exactly what they have to do why it is so much also i came across a set of hoses on ebay for around 50 bucks from a 03 str with 60 k miles do u know if the str hoses will fit the 3.0

 

Used hoses?

 

You want to put USED trans lines on your JAGUAR? They won't fit. Using anything USED is usually a bad idea, especially when it involves rubber.

 

I posted some info regarding these leaking lines a few months ago. I havean 06 4.2, normally aspirated. The lines...they come in a set...are primarily metal with about 6 inches of rubber hose spliced in; the rubberis necessary since the transmission cooler on the bottom of the radiatoris stationary and the engine, of course, moves around on its mounts to a small degree. The leak(s) occur at the splice of the metal rubber junction.The following quote is from memory; if you want the exact amount, I canprovide this. An independent mechanic in the Portland, OR area quoted me"about" $1,000 dollars. I ended up taking it to a Jag dealer in the Seattle-Tacoma area where the bill approximated $680 dollars. The approximatebreakdown was as follows: $240 for the line (again, that includes the entry and return; 1 litre of replacement fluid was needed, and, no...it's not necessary to drain the transmission. The remaining amount wasfor labor. Unfortunately, the subframe must be lowered to get at the fittings on the bottom of the radiator. finally, the dealer was runninga 'special' on parts and labor with 10% off. Sales tax was about 8%,and that's included in the total above.The bad news? It's not covered under the terms of the Select Editionor the Exclusionary warranties; hoses are not covered. It's importantthat owners monitor these hoses, in my opinion. If a significant leakdevelops that damages the transmission, the transmission would notbe covered under these warranties since "The covered part was damaged by a non-covered part"! It's the "gotcha" in the warrantiesfine print.I suspect that it's possible to take the lines somewhere and have the rubber parts replaced; however, the part is a relatively smallexpense of the total bill. I strongly recommend that all owners have the lines inspected at every oil change. I first noticed a small amount of fluid duringan oil change...just enough to moisten the metal line. At the next oil change, the leak was very apparent with an ounce or two of fluid that had collected on the removable bottom fairing.Once again, I can provide you with the exact numbers for the part and the total bill.

 

I reckon it's this https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=38312

and very usueful it is, so thanks!

 

Cliff,

I'll add to my list of "stupid sh*t" to watch out for.

The question is whether it was bad enough to be a must repair at once or one of those annoying small leaks that never amount to all that much but make you worry and cause a mess.

It might have been nice to track it over time.

I had a similar issue at similar mileage on my Infiniti but on that car no subframe to drop just the belly pan. It did it twice too. Once "under warranty" and once when I cut and spliced the hose myself.

From the looks of the parts picture it's a very tortured path from the tranny to the cooler. I wonder if an owner supplied field engineering change could improve this issue? There might not be enough room?

Bob S.

 

to those who have answered my questions about the cooler lines i went to an independent tranny shop the put the car on the lift and to my surprise the guy told me there were no leaks at all he show me the supply and return from the tranny and the lines going to the cooler and no signs of leaks gave him 40 bucks i will be filling a complaint with heritage jaguar of freeport long island they r ripoffs. i feel verydisgusted they would charge me money for do something that does not need to be done i will not be going there any more thanks to everyone with there help in this matter

 

If that's accurate then it's worthy of a DA investigation but you better be sure of the facts.