I've had my s type r about a year now and the one thing that bugged me was the jerky shifting, especially in 1st and 2nd gear. I had the tranny flushed and filled with new filter and now all those problems have gone bye-bye. I do all my own work on my cars but I don't mess with transmissions. To me it was money well spent

 

One more for the change the fluid crowd

How many miles, what type of transmission and what brand of fluid?

 

Just turned 100k, it the 4.0 automatic transmission. I believe they used Shell tranny fluid.

 

If it's an s type R it will be a 4.2l and the zf 6 speed box.

If it is not an r it could be 4.0l and ford 5 speed box

 

Glad to hear it. I have about 10 things that need done on my 2004 Jaguar S Type this being one. I just told the local shop today to do this on mine as I have been having issues with mine too. I had a local foreign car shop say my tranny was pretty much shot, I then took it to another local shop (and the owner has an s type too and does his own service) and he said no way the tranny is shot it just needs serviced. He is draining it, putting in fluid, new pan, plug etc but it is costing me $550. If it turns out well like yours I'll be happy.

 

I use a tranny shop that I trust and the whole job cost me $329.00. It's cheaper to have maintainence done than pay over $3500 like I had to do with my 2001 VDP.

 

I would be worried at that price??

Just the parts and fluid alone cost me $300 plus from:
The CTSC - ZF parts

Which has the best price anywhere I can find on the proper ZF parts.

Did you replace the pan with the built in filter?

Did you replace the sleeve because it will leak!
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Ugh that is still on my list to do as well. One of these days...

 

I'm doing mine at 60k.

 

This ZF box has a fairly good reputation. 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 1st to rollout have been known to be a problem. The adaptive shift learning can sometimes loose it's way and become problematic. The previously mentioned CTSC ZF dealer has become my new best friend. They were recommended by the ZF tech folks here in the US. The Lifeguard 6 fluid is not readily available at just any road side station. Jaguar charges about $60 /liter during service events, less than $20 with these folks. The plastic pan has been adopted to save overall vehicle weight and includes the filter along with magnets to attract those lovely bits in the fluid that show up over time. Also if you measure your ownership in decades as I do, spend the few extra bob for new pan screws as they have been beefed up.

The dealer can flash the TCM software for you and this too will help out. Check out the electric sealing sleeve for leaks as they are common and this bit is only $16, so if you're doing pan and filter not excuse not to do it.

Not a hard job but requires care and precision, if you're good with your hands and not timid this might be a way to connect to your Pride and Joy.

Good Luck
Robert Phelps

Below is the link to the ZF source at a reasonable price point.

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The CTSC - ZF parts

 

yes the pan had the built in filter.
keep in mind the cost of living isnt as high here as in the big metropolitan areas.

 

I'll take my chances, afterall it cost me $3500 to have the tranny on my 2001 VDP rebuilt, besides these guys have been around a long time and I know they do good work.

 

Now if I can get the restricted performance issue resolved I'll be a happy camper.

 

It's worth bearing in mind that a dealer/specialist will get the parts cheaper than they will sell them to you and I. This means that they can take a lower profit margin on the parts if they are getting it back on the labour. Here I can often get a job done for me for the same price that I would pay for just parts (sometimes cheaper).

 

Just changed the fluid, filter, and connector sleeve this past weekend on my 2005 STR. The parts cost me around $300 from CTSC. Based on what you paid vs the cost of the parts alone I am guessing that yours is not the ZF transmission. I thought that the ZF was introduced on all S-Types in 2003 and that same year the 4.0 was replaced with the 4.2. And, that there were no 4.0 STRs? Anyway, on my ZF trans fluid change, I yielded about 6 liters when drained overnight. And for me it took about 6 litere to refill per the instructions provided by others on this forum and using the fluid temperature to determine proper fill volume/level.

 

Correct, both on ZF year and no 4.0 STRs.

 

See post #4

 

could anyone provide me with a direct link to this "electric sleeve" that is prone to leaking.? about 2 months ago, i was getting really hard shifts out of my 2003 STR, sometimes it would even feel as if she was slipping, but my biggest concern was a dime sized puddle of oil i found every morning directly under the tranny..
so i took it to a local tranny shop and to my surprise, I see my exact same car parked out front. turns out the owner of the shop also own a 2003 STR, black on black, just like mine. He said he had plenty of experience with our transmission and does his own work on his Jag. he ordered the pan and filter. i asked about changing the screws but he convinced me it wasn't necessary. anyways, 3 days later, i take the car in and hand him the keys..... the whole job was completed in less than 1 hour.! *first flag*
when he rang me up, i was charged $300.. i was originally quoted $450. *second flag*

i left the shop a little sceptical but i figured this guy must know what he's doing.. maybe i'm a little too trusting.. after driving the car for only 5 minutes, the difference was night and day.!! it was such a wonderful feeling.. i could barely make out the gear changes without looking at the rpm gauge. BUTTER.!! i was so relieved... best ever money spent.! so i thought...

fast forward to this week... the tanny is leaking again. and alot more than it was before i initially took it in.. the transmission is still shifting nicely, but im guessing its only a matter of time.. im super bummed out.

so could this "sleeve" be the culprit of my problem.. and in order to replace it. must the pan be dropped again.?? thanks in advance everyone for all of your help.!

 

Please look at the link I posted. Claus is an expert in the ZF transmission and has all the parts. The sleeve is right on the front page because it's so common.

Yes the pan needs to be dropped again. I don't think he was an expert like he said as the sleeve is a VERY well-known problem. And while you are in there please change the pan screws. It's needed.

Did he reflash the TCM? It's a dealer item but maybe he can do it? The software update is a big part of fixing the "Lurch".
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Lad

The sleeve is located on the rear of the box looking forward on the right hand side of the output shaft where it joins the drive shaft. It is of course the link to the CAN ( Computer Network ). This is such an obvious item to check and is only about $16 and must be done at the same time as a fluid/pan/gasket replacement. It is replaced from the out side but the release tab can only be accessed from the inside, hence while your there. Zf doesn't recommend reusing the fluid (Jaguar spec is about $60 per liter) but certainly the pan /filter can be reused with another new gasket. The pan's plug is plastic and very cheap so don't scrimp there. If he didn't change the sleeve, I'd say he is at risk for your wrath for missing such an obvious while you're there you should do this as well type repair. Not really a bank breaker, unless you have to do it twice! Ouch!

Put some cardboard on the floor under the trans and locate the problem. The pan is over torqued and cracked it is ruined, but if its at the rear near the centerline slightly right, then the sleeve may be your issue.

The adaptive shift technology ( ASIS ) takes about 100 miles to relearn the way you drive and improve the shifting quality. Did your repairman disconnect your battery? That is how the ASIS is reset.

The software may or may not need updating unless a new version has been released, but also some benefit can be found there as well.

Side note have you ever heard a "squawk" type sound on occasion? There is a ZF additive to quiet this known event.

Mechatronic sealing sleeve Part at CTSC, Lifeguard 6 OEM fluid led than $20 per liter

replacement .pdf info under Tech Tab on home page

Hope this helps
Cheers Robert
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