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Old 06-13-2023, 07:35 AM
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Default Water Heater Pipe in Metal Yet for the AJ126/133 engines? Beware fake parts too!

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Anyone have news on the water heater pipe/sensor in metal?

Part is fully discussed in this thread: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...s-pipe-264715/

Super thank you all in advance! Not on Euro-AMP as of yet. I did email them to ask on this topic just today and if I hear back will report back.

NOTE - BEWARE FAKE PARTS. I have noticed a lot of cheap ones on Amazon and eBay and I don't think they are up to the same quality as a real one.... Saw one at a shop today that was fake that failed....in under 3 months/1500 miles........so be careful out there. Comparing to a real one the fake one's seam was more pronounced than the real one. It is a really close fake. Shop team's word was spend the money and get genuine. My hopefully real one cost about 200 dollars form a dealer one state over (none of the local dealers had one...an issues...)...the fake ones are around 50 dollars....don't fall for it.


Fake one with two parallel big cracks being held ot accentuate the failure for the photo:










 

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I would be interested too.
 
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Not yet and you are not the only one waiting for it!
That is the V-6 version and unfortunately that is one part that is different between the V-6 and V-8's.
I hope they plan to release both versions but again I have no info.
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How do you know the 'fake' was a 'fake' ?
 
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Originally Posted by kansanbrit
How do you know the 'fake' was a 'fake' ?
1. Mechanic noted difference in the part that came from JLR to replace it. It was his opininon. He has an XF with a V6 and he noted it was different from that one too.
2. I went home and have an older one from factory sitting in a box "just in case" and felt it...the seam is almost absent on the dealer sourced and factory original parts. On the failed one it is pretty obvious/raised. You cannot tell via online images for the most part. In the picture above the seam is like the top of that picture all the way around the presumed "fake" part...

Some other markings were different.

This issue is compounded by the fact that this part is currenlty hard to get, in rare/very low stock....so dealer pricing may be high and many may be tempted to go to other places to get the part.

My opinion. The mechanic agreed.
 

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This problem was solved some time ago. The metal versions of this pipe, both for the V6 and for the V8 are easily available. I had my dealer install the full set of (3) metal pipes on my car last October.
 
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Originally Posted by sov211
This problem was solved some time ago. The metal versions of this pipe, both for the V6 and for the V8 are easily available. I had my dealer install the full set of (3) metal pipes on my car last October.
Where have you seen the V6 version for sale?
 
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Originally Posted by kansanbrit
Where have you seen the V6 version for sale?
One place is RKX, see here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/33499262843...YAAOSwpdVk3mxP
 
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Yes now two metal versions for the V-6 guys.
One piece casting.
V-6 One Piece Rear Water Manifold

Or the two part version which came out first.
Two Piece Rear Water Manifold for the V-6
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Originally Posted by OzXFR
Out of stock.
Anybody actually seen one or tested one?
 
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Originally Posted by kansanbrit
Out of stock.
Anybody actually seen one or tested one?
I have the V8 version. I got it from Euro AMP. They have both V6 and V8 versions. Both on sale at the moment.
 
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Originally Posted by kansanbrit
Out of stock.
Anybody actually seen one or tested one?
Read post #7 above. Not only have I seen one but it was installed with no problem at all on my V6S engine last October. And no problems since.
 
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Can you clarify what you mean by the "exact specifications" of the coolant pipes? The metal pipes (3 of them) now available, are exact replacements for the OEM plastic originals; they fit perfectly (I refer to the pipes provided by EuroAmp, and there are other sources), and they work perfectly.
 
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Originally Posted by Energymble
It looks like you're asking about whether the water heater pipe in the AJ126/133 engines is made of metal. To be honest, I'm not entirely sure about the specifics of these engines, but I can give you some general advice.
Originally Posted by Energymble
Metal pipes are commonly used in engines for their durability and heat resistance. However, without knowing the exact specifications of the AJ126/133 engines, I can't say for certain if this is the case for them. If you're looking for more specific information, it might be best to consult the engine's manual or contact a mechanic who specializes in these engines. They would have the expertise to give you a more accurate answer. Also, for future reference, you can check out rowlen.co.uk for more information on engine parts and specifications.
Originally Posted by sov211
Can you clarify what you mean by the "exact specifications" of the coolant pipes? The metal pipes (3 of them) now available, are exact replacements for the OEM plastic originals; they fit perfectly (I refer to the pipes provided by EuroAmp, and there are other sources), and they work perfectly.
I wonder if Energymble is an AI bot (only 2 posts and promotional content).
 

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Originally Posted by sov211
Read post #7 above. Not only have I seen one but it was installed with no problem at all on my V6S engine last October. And no problems since.
I did read post #7 but you didn't say if yours was a V8 or a V6. You wouldn't have had any problems with a plastic one either in this time, they are not that unreliable and usually last 10 years plus. The aluminum versions are unproven and aluminum can crack too. I have rebuilt 4 engines, used new generic plastic pipes on all four and none have had any issues in 3-4 years. But to each their own, at least there is a choice now.
 

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Yes it has been reported as spam. Strange unrelated link to boiler repair was a big clue!
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Originally Posted by kansanbrit
I did read post #7 but you didn't say if yours was a V8 or a V6. You wouldn't have had any problems with a plastic one either in this time, they are not that unreliable and usually last 10 years plus. The aluminum versions are unproven and aluminum can crack too. I have rebuilt 4 engines, used new generic plastic pipes on all four and none have had any issues in 3-4 years. But to each their own, at least there is a choice now.
My signature does list my F-Type as a V6S, but in any case I must disagree with your statement that there would be no problems with the “plastic one either in this time”. I do agree that the fear over failure of the plastic pipes is somewhat exaggerated, and indeed I had no issues with the plastic pipes on my F-Type (now fitted with the aluminum pipes).

However, we also have a 2017 F-Pace V6 in the family, owned since new. Several months ago there was sudden failure of the rear manifold pipe, the very same plastic pipe under discussion here. This F-Pace has only 75,000 kms on it, has never been abused and has had zero mechanical problems (except for this pipe failure). It now has the aluminum pipes.
So it is obvious that the pipes can and do fail, not on every car but on a number high enough to justify using metal replacements.
 
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Originally Posted by clubairth1
Yes it has been reported as spam. Strange unrelated link to boiler repair was a big clue!
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Well a BIG thank you to ALL the mods!!!
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