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Old Yesterday | 11:46 AM
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Howdy folks,
been a while since my last post. Still plugging along with my 99 XJR with about 98k miles.

After using the car in our harsh winter, when the weather got a bit warmer, I hosed off the underside with a regular hose/nozzle, not a pressure washer or anything. Since then, the car has made an awful grinding noise from the rear at anything above walking speed. The grinding does not go away at higher speeds and applying side to side load doesn't change the noise. Accel or decel doesn't change the noise and its road speed dependent, not engine speed. Its quite loud and initially appeared to be something like a rock stuck in a brake pad, a rubbing dust shield, or potentially a bent heatshield rubbing the driveshaft. I have checked all of that and found nothing wrong. The driveshaft guibos are new and the center bearing seems totally fine.

Thinking maybe I washed the grease out of a ujoint, i regreased all the joints on the rear propshafts. Despite this, the grinding remains. It doesn't feel to me like a bad ujoint as there is no clunking or noticeable play. I suppose it could be a wheel bearing, but it does not seem to have any of the typical symptoms. The noise feels wrong, it would have failed out of nowhere, there is no play in the wheel, and high speed turns don't change the noise at all.

Before I start throwing parts at it, I'm hoping somebody has an idea of what else it could be.

Also, diff oil was recently changed and there are no apparent leaks.

I'm at a bit of a loss here so any idea would be helpful.

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There are a few TSBs on noises to cover the bases

There is the thing on Diff output bearings getting dry from a plugged fill port vent screen , and can be repaired yourself with Diff stayon car

see bottom of list

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Old Yesterday | 06:11 PM
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The X308 and X100 use the 14HU with a different output shaft/stub axle arrangement with inline pinion/crownwheel but the idea is still the same.
 
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I guess it can't be as easy as a stuck/corroded hand-brake-cable having the effect of pushing the pads on one or both sides a bit onto the rotors (discs) while driving?
 
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The handbrake cable has NOTHING to do with the brake pads.
The handbrake uses SHOES inside the rear rotors like a drum brake setup.
 
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If comes to this area

j 1998 - 2003 (from 812317 To F59525) (x308) Classic / Differential Assembly | Jaguar Land Rover Classic Parts

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Bearing kit offerings on E - bay but...................................
 

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Originally Posted by motorcarman
The handbrake cable has NOTHING to do with the brake pads.
The handbrake uses SHOES inside the rear rotors like a drum brake setup.
OK. Then maybe the brake shoes being stuck due to hand-brake cable being stuck? Just an idea. Doesn't hurt to check out the cable, I guess. And checking, if releasing the handbrake actually releases the levers on the brakes, or if the levers are stuck and all you get after releasing the handbrake is slack in the cables...
 

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thanks for the responses. handbrake shoes are not stuck or contacting the rotors. In fact, with the rear wheels off the ground, spinning the wheels doesn't result in any obvious noise. will have to explore those diff bearings in more detail
 
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Keep the mind open and note your observations as I observed myself the diff output bearings on another X300 and can see how not easy to discern

There are also some TSBs listed under the same earlier X300 chassis that made tge list and missed the X308

See TSB on removing the output bearing retainer / collar if your issue comes to it

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