Got home from work and UPS had delivered some nice new shiny Bilstein shocks for the Jag.

I think I'll change clothes and put em on, should have it done in a couple hours tops. Wrong!

I literally spent an hour on one damn lug nut and then another hour and a half finding replacements because I sure wasn't putting those stupid things back on my car! Why in the world would you make a lug nut with a cover over it instead of a solid chrome one.

Ok, i feel better now...

 

jpsexton, I can summarize it in 1 word, "FORD". I have seen some strange things come out of that stable and it normally makes my head hurt trying to figure out why they did it that way. It has a good feature to it, granted, I am not sure what it is. But, it made sense to someone else.

 

I've pretty much bent and deformed the outside of all my lug nuts.

 

If you visit the S Type section you will find all kinds of information and discussions on the two piece lug nuts, I assume they are probably the same on the X, if not I'm sure the same sources will be able to provide replacements.

 

my ole 2000 landrover had the same silly design

 

Hmmmm, Land ROver, another former Ford product. Need I say more.

Now, there is some logic to using these lugnuts as they do help to isolate the road noise to the rims only, not transmit it up to the frame of the car (which then allows you to hear the noise). But, for the most part, the gains from this sort of lugnut are minimal.

 

You know, there is absolutly nothing wrong with the stainless jag lug nuts other than their price. I take litterally 1000's off every year and never have an issue unless and idiot has been there before me with the wrong sized socket. So ill say it again, use a 3/4" flank drive impact socket and they wont stick in the socket like the metric sized one and youll never spin or damage the cap from the wrong socket.and throw that pos jag lug wrench away in the trunk and get a good folding 4 way.
Go ahead and use chrome, dorman makes a set. You be bitchen in no time about rust. Fyi all newer jags use the exact same lug nuts now.

 

You're right, stainless will never rust. I knew there had to be a reason, I just couldn't think of it while I was trying to remove a mangled lug nut.

This one had obviously had the wrong size socket used on more than one occasion. Lol

 

OK I'm from the UK, perhaps we exported all the duff nuts to the US.

Then again I'm thinking socket size might have something to do with this epidemic.

I've never had a problem on any vehicle with a quality X wrench and the right sized socket.

 

i wouldn't mind these nuts from new as i use good quality tools for removing them....my issue is the abuse they have had from previous owners.....remember, for a tech, removing a lug nut is easy, for some people out there it's rocket science.
My jag and the LR had both suffered from over zealous use of an incorrect socket from previous owners

 

Its useally not the previous owners that do it as most jag owners other than here dont do their own work. But places other than a dealer like ntb, discount firestone ect. We all generally have 2 sockets than sit out on our tool boxes a deep well 3/4" and a deep 7/8" both for lug nuts. When you service all types of vehicles all day you grab a socket that "looks" like the right size and spin away...oppps that one wasnt the right size, but too late that nut cover is now mangled. You can generally straighten them backout enough to not replace by slipping the correct one over the nut and hammering it on to reshape the cover. Then use the correct one from then on

 

Got that Brutal, and yes I understand what you are saying. Seen it in action.

Have you noticed any difference on the West/East side cap smear compared with East/West side.

IE, undoing with an air gun as opposed to spinning up with a gun before torquing.

My local tractor garage insists that I always whizz up and torque my own nuts myself with alloy wheels.

Which gives rise to the problem, if the nut cover didn't go South, then an expensive wheel could easily have been wrecked by an over zealous gun.

 

I have absolutely no issue with them. Mine are still pristine, I use my own air tools and have the proper 6 point sockets. But I would imagine if your car spent any time at all at a discount brake / tire / suspension place who like 50% of the places here still use standard sockets and don't understand or use metrics there would be an issue.