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Old Feb 18, 2022 | 10:10 AM
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F-type S rear diff can be straight bolted on to the XES. Part Number on diff: EX53-4A213-AA 3.31 gear ratio. No issue, no limp mode, no error code.
Filled with 75W-140 Amsoil to provide better protection during track and drifting and No Noise problem during daily driving.
Big Difference between stock EDL and F-type S LSD.
With stock EDL, it is hard to maintain drifting. The car's motion is quite unprodictable during drift. You need to use heavy throttle to start powerslide or do some weight transfer to start drifting and once it gets slide, the EDL will work then you will have sudden tail out which is unprodictable. During drifting, the EDL may sudden stop working and if you don't push more throttle at that time, the head of the car will point straight to the opposite side! Then you may crash! That's so horrible.
With F-type S LSD. Drifting become so easy to me. The tail angle can be changed with the throttle input. It is so controllable that I can drift through all the corner with confidence even on public road. Easy to start powerslide, no more sudden tail out. Although I only have sim drifting experience on Assetto Corsa, I can easily adapt to doing the same thing on XES with the LSD.
With VAP pulley kit and tune, the car can output 450BHP on crank and beautiful steering feel makes it drifts just like a E92 M3, though it is electric powered steering. Nice car and I love it.
Strong recommend on retrolfitting LSD to XES, if you are interested in spirit driving and know how to drift.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2022 | 12:20 PM
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Very cool. Any videos of the XE in action?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2022 | 11:32 AM
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Very cool. Any videos of the XE in action?
Thank you for your comment. I will record some vids about motion and upload them these days.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2022 | 01:06 PM
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Old Apr 14, 2022 | 02:36 PM
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Very cool!

What is the part number of the EDL diff that came off? Wondering if the XF-S is also compatible.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2022 | 10:00 PM
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Stock Open Diff: GX73-4A213-JA with 3.23 ratio. XF-S should have the same differential as the XE-S
 
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Old May 6, 2022 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackMatcha
F-type S rear diff can be straight bolted on to the XES. Part Number on diff: EX53-4A213-AA 3.31 gear ratio. No issue, no limp mode, no error code.
Filled with 75W-140 Amsoil to provide better protection during track and drifting and No Noise problem during daily driving.
Big Difference between stock EDL and F-type S LSD.
With stock EDL, it is hard to maintain drifting. The car's motion is quite unprodictable during drift. You need to use heavy throttle to start powerslide or do some weight transfer to start drifting and once it gets slide, the EDL will work then you will have sudden tail out which is unprodictable. During drifting, the EDL may sudden stop working and if you don't push more throttle at that time, the head of the car will point straight to the opposite side! Then you may crash! That's so horrible.
With F-type S LSD. Drifting become so easy to me. The tail angle can be changed with the throttle input. It is so controllable that I can drift through all the corner with confidence even on public road. Easy to start powerslide, no more sudden tail out. Although I only have sim drifting experience on Assetto Corsa, I can easily adapt to doing the same thing on XES with the LSD.
With VAP pulley kit and tune, the car can output 450BHP on crank and beautiful steering feel makes it drifts just like a E92 M3, though it is electric powered steering. Nice car and I love it.
Strong recommend on retrolfitting LSD to XES, if you are interested in spirit driving and know how to drift.
It appears the f-type diff has a connector on it, does this have a pre-existing plug on the xe s? I'm working with a 2018 awd xe s and really wanna do this swap. My car is a US market car if that changes anything. No programming or anything?
 
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Old May 6, 2022 | 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Huntern55
It appears the f-type diff has a connector on it, does this have a pre-existing plug on the xe s? I'm working with a 2018 awd xe s and really wanna do this swap. My car is a US market car if that changes anything. No programming or anything?
No programming or change needed.
Don't worry about the connector, XE and F-type mount the diff in the same way, because every differential case(not the gear inside) on current 3.0L models(fpace,xj,xe,xf,ftype) is the same.
 
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Old May 6, 2022 | 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackMatcha
No programming or change needed.
Don't worry about the connector, XE and F-type mount the diff in the same way, because every differential case(not the gear inside) on current 3.0L models(fpace,xj,xe,xf,ftype) is the same.
I was able to pull up the diagram of each diff and I can see they mount exactly the same, but it appears the f type has a plug that the xe s diff doesn't have correct? Does this just stay unplugged? Sorry if I'm just not understanding correctly
 
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Old May 6, 2022 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Huntern55
I was able to pull up the diagram of each diff and I can see they mount exactly the same, but it appears the f type has a plug that the xe s diff doesn't have correct? Does this just stay unplugged? Sorry if I'm just not understanding correctly
If you mean the bolt hole on the rear bottom of the diff, it stays unplugged. May I see the diagram, if I miss understand the connector.
 
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Old May 6, 2022 | 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackMatcha
If you mean the bolt hole on the rear bottom of the diff, it stays unplugged. May I see the diagram, if I miss understand the connector.

Diagram for 2018 xe s rear diff

Diagram for 2018 f-type rear diff note "5" is a small electrical piece with a connector on it
 
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Old May 6, 2022 | 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Huntern55

Diagram for 2018 xe s rear diff

Diagram for 2018 f-type rear diff note "5" is a small electrical piece with a connector on it
oh, I see. The f-type diagram use the 5.0 model's electronic LSD for image. The 3.0 S model don't have that small motor, it is a mechanical LSD.
You can search EX53-4A213-AA, which is the part number for F-type 3.0 S, you will see they don't have that motor.
 
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Old May 6, 2022 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackMatcha
oh, I see. The f-type diagram use the 5.0 model's electronic LSD for image. The 3.0 S model don't have that small motor, it is a mechanical LSD.
You can search EX53-4A213-AA, which is the part number for F-type 3.0 S, you will see they don't have that motor.
Oh your awesome, im working with an awd car, so the gear raito difference would pose an issue id assume
I would be attempting to take the lsd out and have it installed in my diff or swap my gears into the f type housing
 
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Old May 6, 2022 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Huntern55
Oh your awesome, im working with an awd car, so the gear raito difference would pose an issue id assume
I would be attempting to take the lsd out and have it installed in my diff or swap my gears into the f type housing
Yes, on AWD gear ratio change can be an issue, though 3.23 to 3.31 change is small. Swapping the LSD only is a safer choice.
Sorry, I konw nothing about the gear diameter inside the housing, but I hope you can get it fit.
 
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Old May 6, 2022 | 08:59 PM
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Oh your awesome, im working with an awd car, so the gear raito difference would pose an issue id assume
I would be attempting to take the lsd out and have it installed in my diff or swap my gears into the f type housing
wish me luck! I have a great differential guy, but I will basically have to buy the parts and hope the swap is possible.
Luckily if only doing the lsd i won't need to re-shim, but if doing gears it could get alittle harder. I'm just diving into this car, never had my eyes on a jag but I did a 24hr test drive and really did fall in love, the awd when fully disabled traction control really does slide out easily, but after seeing your post it makes complete sense and I'm a much more "involved driver" so a mechanical lsd is appealing
the system diverts almost all power to rear when in a slide, it really really feels full rwd in the slides
 
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Old May 6, 2022 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Huntern55
wish me luck! I have a great differential guy, but I will basically have to buy the parts and hope the swap is possible.
Luckily if only doing the lsd i won't need to re-shim, but if doing gears it could get alittle harder. I'm just diving into this car, never had my eyes on a jag but I did a 24hr test drive and really did fall in love, the awd when fully disabled traction control really does slide out easily, but after seeing your post it makes complete sense and I'm a much more "involved driver" so a mechanical lsd is appealing
the system diverts almost all power to rear when in a slide, it really really feels full rwd in the slides
Yes, Jag's AWD is fun and safe to drive. It can not only do RWD stuff like slide and donut, but also have better traction and less likely to spin.
Comfortable ride, nice handling, enough power, sound and look beautiful. XE is a good sedan for its price. I love it.
 
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Old May 25, 2022 | 04:18 PM
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I got too excited too fast and forgot not all these cars are all-wheel drive. @Huntern55 im hoping you determine if swapping this into an all-wheel drive car is possible. Would love to do this to my sportbrake.
 
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@DeviLSh @BlackMatcha @Huntern55@Mazen Ajouz

I think I have some additional information to share with you.
I have been developing a helical torque biasing differential for the Jaguar DANA 44 AdvanTEK equipped cars. (XE/XF, F-Pace, F-Type.. and a few others)

See thread here. /v6-base-lsd-swap-245971/page3/#post2642636
Note: I am getting ready to rebuild 3.15 , 3.23, and 3.31 rear diff ratios with helical (maintenance free) diffs.
I can put a helical torque biasing differential from MFactory into the Jaguar rear diffs.
Yes, we can equip the various ratios with a helical LSD. I have the above three ratios on my work bench and I have a solution.
See this tread to buy in. /v6-base-lsd-swap-245971/page4/#post2644469

Lets combine forces to give these Jaguars the roar they desreve.

Herman
 

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