Hello all, I am thinking of retiring my 2004 x-type that is beginning to get a bit long in the tooth. I am looking at a 2009 or 2010 XF. They catch my eye... I am curious what you owners have seen as far as reliability? Is this a car that is a smart buy? What should I expect to replace and how much approximately if I purchase one with say 70k miles?

Can a lot of the maintenance be done by the owner or will it require a dedicated dealership? The closest Jaguar dealership to me is 2 hours and I am not a fan of dealer repair prices. Would I be able to take one to a local mechanic and they would be able to work on it?

Sorry for the stupid questions

 

Pretty reliable for an expensive and complex British car...

But, who maintains your X-Type? If you find an XF that you like why not take it there?

If you've been rolling your own with the X-Type good on you! But I would search your area for a qualified non-dealer shop. You'll always want that repair option.

Then start looking for a car.
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Ok good deal!! They sure are pretty. Anything I should look for when buying a used XF? I think I read the water pumps are a common item to go out on them?

 

Plenty of threads on the issues with the 09-10. There aren't too many serious ones, and the 5.0's seem to be more problematic with the cooling system. But some other areas to check such as peeling dash and differential problems....

 

I am also looking at purchasing a used XFR 2010 or 2011. My neighbor purchased an 2007 BMW M5 in October and had an oil pump issue within the first month 8k repair....with those 5 liter engines is there anything that I need to look out for.....I am purchasing a high mileage most likely 60K miles.....I am looking for issues that would take the engine out. thanks

 

Last year I bought a 2009 XFR (UK, so we had them 1yr before the US) with about 62k miles on the clock. I spent the first 6 months bricking it every time I used it in fear that an 8k bill was just around the corner: turns out my fears were misplaced.

Water pump is (to the best of my knowledge) the most common thing that can cause a problem for the 5.0 engine (both n/a and s/c). Mine had supposedly been replaced when I bought the car, but it went again within 2 months of owning - seller replaced it (with an OEM one this time...) and it's been fine since. The e-diff had a fault when I viewed the car, which the seller rectified before I bought the car - that would have been the more expensive item to replace if I'd had to do it. There are some stories on this forum of 5.0 engines blowing, but I think that's rare and I'm not equipped to outline why (possibly low oil related?).

The car's now on 86k miles and I've had a new wheel bearing (can't remember part cost, not much though), upper suspension arm (rear - £150ish for the part) and new brake pads (£40), all of which appear to be fairly standard running cost items for an XF. And 4 new tyres (about £1k for Michelin PSS all round...). So if the thread starter buys one with 70k miles, I imagine your experience would be similar to mine.

 

You may want to check out timing chain tensioner issues for the 2010-1012 MY
5.0 liter Ford engines.

 

Thanks guys...trying to figure out which dealer I am buying from....thanks

 

The guy in the video is clueless. The JLR 5.0L V-8 is NOT a Ford engine!
This seems to be a constant error by many people. Yes they are both 5.0L and yes they are both DOHC. But no parts interchange.

Ford even manufactures some parts for JLR. This is a hold over from when Ford owned JLR and is going away.
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We have a 2009 XF, with the N/A 4.2 liter engine. It currently has 33,000 miles on it, and the only real issue was with some clips/retainers in the sunroof mechanism.


Brake pads, the rears, are also a major wear item, due to Jaguar's brake bias settings, as well as the rear brakes being used to modulate wheel speed, related to the traction control system. I replaced our brakes, all the way around, at 25,000 miles. I was removing the snow tires, 2 years ago, and was shocked to see how worn the rear pads were. I wasn't aware, at the time, of this rear brake bias, so I assumed that the fronts were equally worn.


I ordered 4 rotors, and 2 pairs of ceramic, rather than metallic, brake pads. After changing out the rear pads/rotors, I attacked the fronts, and found they were barely worn. However, since I had it apart, I replaced them anyway. At least with the ceramic pads, there isn't the bother of excessive brake pad dust on the wheels.

 

Point is the engine is the same with the same problems.
From Wikepedia:

AJ133[edit]
Bore and stroke is 92.5 mm (3.6 in) x 93.00 mm (3.7 in).

Land Rover version is called 'LR-V8 Petrol engine'.

Vehicles using this engine:

2009–2015 Jaguar XF, 385 PS (283 kW; 380 hp) and 515 N⋅m (380 lbf⋅ft)
2009–present Jaguar XJ, 385 PS (283 kW; 380 hp) and 515 N⋅m (380 lbf⋅ft)
2009–2011 Jaguar XJ, 470 PS (350 kW; 460 hp) and 575 N⋅m (424 lbf⋅ft)
2009–present Jaguar XK, 385 PS (283 kW; 380 hp) and 515 N⋅m (380 lbf⋅ft)
2009–2015 Jaguar XFR, 510 PS (380 kW; 500 hp) and 625 N⋅m (461 lbf⋅ft)
2014–present Jaguar XJR,550 PS (405 kW; 542 hp) and 502 lb ft (681 Nm)
2009–2015 Jaguar XKR, 510 PS (380 kW; 500 hp) and 625 N⋅m (461 lbf⋅ft)
2011–2015 Jaguar XKR-S, 550 PS (400 kW; 540 hp) and 680 N⋅m (500 lbf⋅ft)
2013–2015 Jaguar XFR-S, 550 PS (400 kW; 540 hp) and 680 N⋅m (500 lbf⋅ft)
2013–2015 Jaguar F-Type V8 S Convertible, 495 PS (364 kW) and 461 lb⋅ft (625 N⋅m)
2014–present Jaguar F-Type Coupé, 550 PS (405 kW) and 502 lb⋅ft (681 N⋅m)
2009–2015 Land Rover Discovery, 375 PS (276 kW) and 375 lb⋅ft (508 N⋅m)
2009–2015 Land Rover Range Rover Sport, 375 PS (276 kW) and 375 lb⋅ft (508 N⋅m)
2009–present Land Rover Range Rover Sport, 510 PS (375 kW) and 461 lb⋅ft (625 N⋅m)
2015–present Land Rover Range Rover Sport SVR 550 PS (405 kW) and 502 lb⋅ft (681 N⋅m)
2009–present Land Rover Range Rover, 375 PS (276 kW) and 375 lb⋅ft (508 N⋅m)
2009–present Land Rover Range Rover, 510 PS (375 kW) and 461 lb⋅ft (625 N⋅m)
2015–present Project 7/F-Type SVR, 575 PS (423 kW) and 502 lb⋅ft (681 N⋅m)
2018– Land Rover Discovery SVX, 525 PS (386 kW) and 561 lb⋅ft (761 N⋅m)
2018– XE SV Project 8, 600 PS (441 kW) and 516 lb⋅ft (700 N⋅m)

 

At least that list shows none of the engines are the Ford 5.0