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Old Apr 8, 2025 | 09:25 AM
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Can anyone help with recommendations on how to adjust the camber after installing H&R lowering springs? Is it even possible? I'm hoping someone has found a way to make this work.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2025 | 10:56 AM
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If I remember correctly, there is some "adjustability" in the front end of the car, but the rear is not adjustable, and as you go lower, the camber goes negative. We had a "1st cousin" to the XF, a Lincoln LS, prior to our XF, and I wanted to lower the LS, but the rear camber wasn't adjustable, and in it's stock form, was pretty close to the "max" level as it was. Therefore, I never even gave a second thought to lowering our XF...........
 
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Old Apr 8, 2025 | 10:59 AM
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Sorry no help but leadfoot4 I also had an LS (2003 V-8 Sport) before coming to the Jaguar side.
Yes on the LS forums guys lowing the car were always fighting rear tire wear because of this.
Thanks for the memory!
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Old Apr 8, 2025 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by clubairth1
Sorry no help but leadfoot4 I also had an LS (2003 V-8 Sport) before coming to the Jaguar side.
Yes on the LS forums guys lowing the car were always fighting rear tire wear because of this.
Thanks for the memory!
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We had a model year 2000 LS. Traded it for a Jag XF, in 2009. Were you, by any chance a member of the 'LLSOC' (Lincoln LS Owner's Club)?
 
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Old Apr 8, 2025 | 11:28 AM
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Yes I was and wanted badly to follow a guy called QuickLS who put a super charger on his gen 1 LS. Huge thread he added to over the years and ultimately he wrecked the LS and moved on. But the club and forum are long gone.

It's a shame but LLSOC was a paid membership so had declining membership as the car got older and cheaper. I really liked the LS but Ford just destroyed that car and totally abandoned all of us owners. In fact if not for the S-Type many LS parts are just not available. If you think the factory mechanics are bad at Jaguar you should have seen how Ford handled the LS! It was a one of kind car as it was an orphan from the start at Ford. None of the repair people had any clue.
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Old Apr 8, 2025 | 12:00 PM
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I can't believe that no spring company or person has made some kind of modification that allows to adjust the camber after installing lowering springs.. 😕 I may have to take them off if I can't find a way to adjust it so I don't wear out the tires quickly. Hopefully someone has an answer...
 
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Old Apr 9, 2025 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by clubairth1
Yes I was and wanted badly to follow a guy called QuickLS who put a super charger on his gen 1 LS. Huge thread he added to over the years and ultimately he wrecked the LS and moved on. But the club and forum are long gone.

It's a shame but LLSOC was a paid membership so had declining membership as the car got older and cheaper. I really liked the LS but Ford just destroyed that car and totally abandoned all of us owners. In fact if not for the S-Type many LS parts are just not available. If you think the factory mechanics are bad at Jaguar you should have seen how Ford handled the LS! It was a one of kind car as it was an orphan from the start at Ford. None of the repair people had any clue.
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With respect to service, my experience with our LS was a "good news, bad news" situation. In my area, there were only 2 Lincoln-Mercury dealers, and the one that we bought the car from, had an excellent service department. We had a few minor problems with the car, but they were handled properly. My only complaint was that the dealership was located on the other side of town, which, obviously, wasn't the most convenient.

Originally Posted by JesseV
I can't believe that no spring company or person has made some kind of modification that allows to adjust the camber after installing lowering springs.. 😕 I may have to take them off if I can't find a way to adjust it so I don't wear out the tires quickly. Hopefully someone has an answer...
Thinking back to my Lincoln LS days, there was initially a flurry of interest in the car, at least by the enthusiasts at the LLSOC website, and as "car guys" we were always looking to enhance the performance of our LSs. Lowering the car was a highly discussed topic, and it soon became obvious that the "fixed pivot points" of the rear control arms, was the stumbling block, as there was no adjustability built into the rear subframe. A couple of the more adventurous guys did some research, and they concluded that the Mustang Cobra SVT of that era, did have a similar rear suspension, and due to the more "performance oriented" nature of the Mustang, it did appear that some sort of adjustment for rear camber was taken into consideration. I believe that lower control arms, with "eccentric bushings", rather than "symmetrical bushings", MIGHT have been available for the Mustang, in order to allow for camber adjustment, but I don't know/remember, with any certainty. Secondly, if there were suitable parts available, any factory parts are probably long gone from the Ford inventories, but that doesn't rule out the aftermarket.

As much as I would have liked to drop our LS a little bit, I also had to consider that it was my wife's "daily driver", and as such, reliability was a prime consideration for the car. Therefore I couldn't turn it into a "research project". Consequently, I set aside any idea of performance modifications, and we simply enjoyed the car for the 9 years that we owned it. Sadly, FoMoCo dropped the car from their line up, and I say sadly, because we certainly would have bought another one. Yes, we bought a Jag XF to replace it, but as much as I hate to say it, we found that the LS felt more nimble than the XF, therefore, it was more fun to drive....


 
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Old Apr 9, 2025 | 11:09 AM
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Funny you say that!
If Ford had done some improvements to the LS as Jaguar did over the years to keep it a least somewhat competitive in it's category I would have bought another one too. We really enjoyed that car but it was a subtle and simple design so it did not stand out. Sometimes it was called a cheaper American version of the 5 series BMW.

But all the LS guys started drooling when Jaguar released the STR. Just think if the LS would have had a 400HP SC V-8 option with that great 6 speed ZF transmission! Heck maybe even a manual transmission option! Of course the LS had the same problem as the STR with no LSD available. This was really a drawback on both cars.

But by that time Ford had already decided to kill the LS entirely so no or very little money was put into the car in later years. I waited until the 2003 update before I purchased mine so at least got a little more HP and improved tensioners in the engine.

Mine was also the wife's car and was kept mostly stock. I did upgrade it to a wood steering wheel and shifter handle as the car did have the other wood pieces already. Best thing I did was swap over to the factory HID lights as mine came with Halogen lights. We did have more problems than with our Jags but not much and again as I post the key to a used car is the ability to DIY the repairs.

If your on the car forums all this is well documented so if you can DIY it can lead to a much cheaper cost of ownership.
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Old Apr 11, 2025 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JesseV
I can't believe that no spring company or person has made some kind of modification that allows to adjust the camber after installing lowering springs.. 😕 I may have to take them off if I can't find a way to adjust it so I don't wear out the tires quickly. Hopefully someone has an answer...
In my opinion, there's too little of a market, for anyone to get involved.......
 
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Old Apr 11, 2025 | 05:01 PM
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I was surprised but look at what I found? These are for an Jaguar XF 2009-2015. I have no idea how much adjustment they give or if they will work.

This is listed as a "Alignment Camber Adjusting Eccentric (Rear, Lower)"
Camber Bolt

Then they show this one.
"Bolt. Control. Arm. Alignment Camber Adjusting Eccentric. and Washer. Suspension. (Upper)"
Upper Camber Bolt
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Old Apr 11, 2025 | 10:22 PM
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Yes but they are for the front suspension system
 
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Old Apr 12, 2025 | 09:09 AM
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Thanks. I could not tell.
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Old Apr 13, 2025 | 11:32 PM
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https://www.stukellymotorsports.com/...e-bushings-set
 
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Old Apr 14, 2025 | 11:23 AM
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I knew you would have an answer! Just saw those on another post.
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Old May 23, 2025 | 02:00 PM
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Coming in here a bit late but was going to link this anyway. SKM or "stu" developed a set of adjustable upper rear controls arms for dialing in camber, I had a ran a set on my (over 1.50" LS with coilovers) to get camber in spec. This, with the 8.8" LSD and 4.10's made for a hell of a LS. Compared to the R-S I have now it's not even close but thanks to Stu there is a somewhat viable solution out there. Anything can be done - depends on how much you wanna spend!

Also I was an OG LLSOC member haha. My 2nd LS was purchased from a member there who has since deceased. QuikLS was also a major influence to me!


 
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Old May 24, 2025 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by DeviLSh
Coming in here a bit late but was going to link this anyway. SKM or "stu" developed a set of adjustable upper rear controls arms for dialing in camber, I had a ran a set on my (over 1.50" LS with coilovers) to get camber in spec. This, with the 8.8" LSD and 4.10's made for a hell of a LS. Compared to the R-S I have now it's not even close but thanks to Stu there is a somewhat viable solution out there. Anything can be done - depends on how much you wanna spend!

Also I was an OG LLSOC member haha. My 2nd LS was purchased from a member there who has since deceased. QuikLS was also a major influence to me!

Good looking LS, and it brings back pleasant memories of our car. It's hard to believe that 25 years have gone by, since we purchased our LS, and 16 years since we traded it off for our XF.

 
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Old May 24, 2025 | 09:08 AM
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I also came from LLSOC and remember QuikLS VERY well! He was doing what I wanted to do and that was to SC the LS. I so wish Ford had continued with the LS and keep it related to the S-Type/XF. On the LS forums we all were just blown away by the STR and if Ford had dropped that 400HP SC V-8 into the LS look out!

I had a 2003 LS V-8 Sport. Metallic red and black leather interior and the first car I had that came with AC seats!




But since none of that happened and Ford killed the LS in 2006 I started my Jaguar journey with a nice silver 2005 STR.
Biggest complaint about the LS was lack of support by Ford since nothing else except the low volume T-Bird used that drive train. And the lack of after market mods.
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