Hello all,

I'm looking at buying a set of wheels and tires for my XF, but I'm told they are originally made for the F-type and the Fondmetal website confirms that.
I need your help/knowledge here.

I'll appreciate any comments.

2013 Jaguar XF SC RWD
My current setup:
OEM Caravela 19 x 8.5J ET49 with 245/40R19
15mm spacer front / 20mm spacer rear.

Setup I'm looking at buying:
Fondmetal 9RR
Front 19 x 8.5J ET 49
Rear 19 x 9.5J ET27
All with 245/40R19

I'll keep the 15mm spacers in the front but the rear I'll take off such that with an ET27 it'll be about the same as the setup I have now in relation to the wheel well. (ET49 - 20mm spacer = 29)

I'm thinking the rear tires are too thin for a 9.5 wheel???Not only that, but I want to go wider in the rear for looks.

Here's my question.
How wide can I go with a 9.5 ET27? 275? 285? 295?

 

245 is the min width on a 9.5 inch rim. You can do it but it might look a bit thin

My V8 Jag XF has OEM 9.5 inch on rear and it runs 285mm stock. I've seen 295s on 9.5 too but if it were me I'd go with 285. Check the tire manufacturer recommendation too. They seem to say 275-285 as optimal for a 9.5 rim

 

Great, I was hoping someone would say the 285's would be fine.
I'm going to run the 245 all around because they're winter tires, then in the spring I'll look at 285's in the rear and keep the 245 in the front until next winter and keep switching them around.
My worry is regarding the wheel wells. I don't want any rubbing.

What year is yours?

 

Mine is a 2010 XF V8 SC. 20inch wheels. The OEM Jag wheels are 8.5 front and 9.5 rear. I run 255 on fronts and 285 rears. That's the OEM setup. Not even close to rubbing anywhere.

I'm sure your offsets, spacers etc are different. But the stock setup shouldn't pose any issues with 285.

 

As long as the body and drive axle are the same dimensions in the back as mine, I should be ok.
I'm going to sit down with a pen and a piece of paper, use your stock setup as a template and go from there.
Are the offsets on yours ET49?

 

The V8 SC and XFR have a different rear axle setup. So mine is offset of 49mm front on an 8.5inch wide wheel. But 66m rear or a 9.5inch wheel
As I understand it the standard XF offsets are different on the rear from XFR and V8 SC

But if you have the stock offset and no spacers then the 285 should be fine. That's my setup.

And my summer wheels stick out a lot further than the OEM setup also with 285s and also no rubbing issues on a 20inch wheel

 

I just swapped out my tires for the right size for these rims.
The front still have the 245/40R19 and on the back I got 275/35R19

Flush to the fender on the back with no rubbing whatsoever, so if anyone can use this info and is looking at some rims from a F-Type to put on the XF, it's confirmed they will fit and in my opinion they look awesome.

 

That does look great. Can you share the specs on those wheels? I see they're both 19". Model? Offset? Whatever you have. Thanks.

 

This is the model and sizes.

Fondmetal 9RR
Front 19 x 8.5J ET49
Rear 19 x 9.5J ET27
On the front I put 20mm spacers, none on the rear.
I'll post the wheel model numbers once I get back to my laptop.

 

Great!



What was the reason for the front spacers? To push the rim outward for esthetics? To help clear brake calipers? Push outward to help for cranked all the way slow turns?



I have a 09 XC SC. Black. I'm thinking your wheels would look great on mine too. I still have the original wheels from when I got it from the showroom in 08 but on these potholes in Mexico I have to drive too carefully. It ruins the fun.



Thanks a lot.

 

The front spacers are only for looks, to match the extrusion as per the rear.
The photos I posted previously have the 15mm on, but because I didn't need the 20mm on the rear (old wheels), I swapped and put the 20mm on the front now.
I didn't have to put any spacers in the rear because the wheels are already ET27, which are actually specified for the F-Type, but fit perfectly on the XF.

I'm attaching two PDFs. These are downloaded from the Fondmetal website with all the specifications.

Enjoy

 

My XF SC is 2009, but from what I understand all years wheel wells are the same. My concern is in the REAR with possible fender rubbing becuase of extruding wheels and tires.

If your outer wheel is flush with exterior fender, how is it possible no rub if the shock compresses fully? The shock/spring looks like it will compress 3" while the vertical clearance looks to be 2" (both estimates). Based on the stock wheel being ET66 and your new wheel being ET27, you're sticking out 39mm more now. My stock only looks like it has maybe 20mm horizontal clearance.

Does the wheel lean inwards (camber) as the wheel raises over a bump? Is that the key to not crushing the fender on a big pothole and flush wheels?

Again, thanks for all the information.

 

The "ET" just may be the difference here between our two car's years.

On mine, all four OEM wheels were ET39.
Now the front are still ET39 (+20mm spacer) and the rear are ET27 (no spacer)

I already had a 20mm spacer in the rear with no problems, now I'm only 2mm further out.

 

Thanks for clarifying. I had never seen your rear wheel specs referenced besides your post. As stated, my OEM are ET66 in rear (9.5 x 20). ET66 range are tough to find! I needed to find out exactly how much fender clearance I had. How much more a wheel could extrude without rubbing the inner fender when the wheel hits a bad pothole.

With the car on the ground, I measured the clearance of wheel face to inner fender at 20 mm. In other words, at rest I measured the outer wheel 20 mm less than "flush" with inner fender. FYI I used a level and a ruler to measure.

Then I took the car to a shop (see photos below), lifted it, disconnected the rear shock/spring, lowered the car until the rear lower control arm rested on a ground pole support, then lowered the car further until the wheel raised in relation to the fender. I would estimate the wheel raised approximately 5 cm upward toward the wheel well from normal ground position. The wheel does lean in (camber) as it raises. At the point in the pictures below, I measured there to be 32 mm horizontal distance from the top of the wheel face to inner fender.

If the wheel were pushed higher the fender clearance would have increased. One could use geometry to figure more information. For me, the 32 mm of fender clearance is enough for what I'm trying to add.

I'm adding 20 mm for having only ET46 offset (was ET66) on the new wheels (2013 Jaguar XJ Porftolio OEM 19x10) and an additional 1/4" (6.35 mm) due to the wheels being 1/2" wider than the OEM 20x9. So that's adding 26.35 mm extrusion but I have more than 32 mm clearance according to my calculations. Another factor leaning in favor of the new wheels and tires fitting is the new tires should be about 10 mm less wide as was stock on the new rims.

I'll post here after everything is on and tested. Thanks again for the specs and information.

 

Not sure how to edit my previous post, but I miswrote "ET39".
It should have been ET49. That is the OEM size for my model and now is still what I have on the front +20mm spacer.
I also forgot to mention that the front are 8.5" wide and the rear are 9.5" wide, which also make a deference. that's an additional 12.25mm wide, each side of the wheel, at the rear.

Cudos to you for going through that to get the right extrusion on your wheels.
I just "kind of" calculated on paper.

Very helpful.

 

2009 XF SC
Stock
Front
255 35 20
8.5Jx20 ET49
Rear
285 30 20
9.5Jx20 ET66

New (FROM 2013 Jaguar XJ Portfolio - tire sizes stock for that model too)
Front
245 45 19
9Jx19 ET49
(15mm Wheel Spacers)
Rear
275 40 19
10Jx19 ET46

NOTES: It's not as nice looking as it was with the factory 20" wheels and very low profile tires but after 15 years I finally have a smooth ride on the very uneven streets of Guadalajara Mexico. No hints of rubbing. The cost pill was easier to swallow as I picked up the OEM set of wheels for $500 USD on eBay while the old wheels had cracks and worn down tires.










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