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Old Apr 28, 2022 | 07:37 AM
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Hi I have a 2008 2.7 xf that has died . The keyless entry module is fried the clocks are fried and the central junction is fried . I have access to the above parts and the key and start control module from the same year car but a 3 litre diesel ,and its running so I know all parts are good . My question is has anyone ever purchased second hand parts and been able to code them to car or is it a case of new parts only . I have a mongoose cable and sdd.
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Old Apr 28, 2022 | 04:47 PM
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You can reprogram used parts. I do engine ecus and key fobs all the time.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2022 | 05:06 PM
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You can reprogram used parts. I do engine ecus and key fobs all the time.
thanks for reply ... so i know my ecu is good but im using a different keyless entry module and key so with sdd and mongoose cable is what im asking possible. Looking for some guidance if possible please .
 
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Old Apr 29, 2022 | 02:06 AM
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I have been reprogramming existing modules with SDD as well. Some of the routines even tell you upfront that used modules cannot be reprogrammed, still the routine works. In my case that was for the rear junction box which I replaced with a used one from another car.
Did also also reprog the VIM module which got corrupted after a low battery incident, but that was the car's original module. Not sure if these security relevant modules can be re used from a different car.
However I use a regular SDD version which is constantly updated - no cracked old version. When programming modules the routine needs to connect to the internet to download module version control and if needed updated module software. This will probably not work with cracked versions, but I never tried.

What you do is to select the symptom at the beginning of the session (no start), then let SDD collect DTCs. Based on the symptom and DTCs SDD will suggest actions to select from. Under the 'Suggestions' tab you should be able to find the re-programming routine.
It is crucial to have a powerful low ripple power supply connected. In debugging mode the car can pull up to 40Amps, which rules out most battery chargers, let alone the high ripple car chargers produce. Ripple can create communication issues between modules, and you don't want your battery go dead in the middle of the reprogramming session.

I'd guess in your situation there's not much to loose - worst thing is its not working and you still have to go to Jaguar to get this fixed.

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Old Apr 29, 2022 | 03:24 AM
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I have been reprogramming existing modules with SDD as well. Some of the routines even tell you upfront that used modules cannot be reprogrammed, still the routine works. In my case that was for the rear junction box which I replaced with a used one from another car.
Did also also reprog the VIM module which got corrupted after a low battery incident, but that was the car's original module. Not sure if these security relevant modules can be re used from a different car.
However I use a regular SDD version which is constantly updated - no cracked old version. When programming modules the routine needs to connect to the internet to download module version control and if needed updated module software. This will probably not work with cracked versions, but I never tried.

What you do is to select the symptom at the beginning of the session (no start), then let SDD collect DTCs. Based on the symptom and DTCs SDD will suggest actions to select from. Under the 'Suggestions' tab you should be able to find the re-programming routine.
It is crucial to have a powerful low ripple power supply connected. In debugging mode the car can pull up to 40Amps, which rules out most battery chargers, let alone the high ripple car chargers produce. Ripple can create communication issues between modules, and you don't want your battery go dead in the middle of the reprogramming session.

I'd guess in your situation there's not much to loose - worst thing is its not working and you still have to go to Jaguar to get this fixed.

Good luck
Chris
thanks for reply .. so if I bought an ecu kit off fleebay lets say ecu,keyless entry mod,key & start control mod ,central junction box ,rear junction box and the clocks ,i fit it all and i can get the ignition on but i then have faults for steering lock not recognised and gear change control module not recognised and hvac not recognised is it possible to change the id of these other componants ive not changed so they are recognised by the ecu
 
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Old Apr 29, 2022 | 07:52 AM
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From my limited experience it should happen automatically even you reprogram the 'new' units.

Because I don't have a large battery charger I connect my truck to the battery of the car being programmed, using jumper cables and leave it running while completing the reprogramming.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2024 | 06:45 PM
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[QUOTE=chris.schneider;2520142]I have been reprogramming existing modules with SDD as well. Some of the routines even tell you upfront that used modules cannot be reprogrammed, still the routine works. In my case that was for the rear junction box which I replaced with a used one from another car.
Did also also reprog the VIM module which got corrupted after a low battery incident, but that was the car's original module. Not sure if these security relevant modules can be re used from a different car.
However I use a regular SDD version which is constantly updated - no cracked old version. When programming modules the routine needs to connect to the internet to download module version control and if needed updated module software. This will probably not work with cracked versions, but I never tried.

The VIM? Is that the immobiliser module? SDD fails to recognize VIM and TCU as being fitted on my '17 XE. I can't get past the "readng sim card type"...it just keeps saying communication failure. Do you know if there is a way to just delete telematics from the car completely, or to bypass it - at least to be able to start the car?
 
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Old Jan 4, 2024 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by chris.schneider
I have been reprogramming existing modules with SDD as well. Some of the routines even tell you upfront that used modules cannot be reprogrammed, still the routine works. In my case that was for the rear junction box which I replaced with a used one from another car.
Did also also reprog the VIM module which got corrupted after a low battery incident, but that was the car's original module. Not sure if these security relevant modules can be re used from a different car.
However I use a regular SDD version which is constantly updated - no cracked old version. When programming modules the routine needs to connect to the internet to download module version control and if needed updated module software. This will probably not work with cracked versions, but I never tried.

The VIM? Is that the immobiliser module? SDD fails to recognize VIM and TCU as being fitted on my '17 XE. I can't get past the "readng sim card type"...it just keeps saying communication failure. Do you know if there is a way to just delete telematics from the car completely, or to bypass it - at least to be able to start the car?
A '17 XE is a different animal, no experience with this, sorry. You can possibly deactivate the TCU but certainly not the VIM. You could try entering expert mode in SSD and deactivate the TCU to see if the VIM then starts wokring, but there's a high risk to brick the electronics completely. Try vehcom to get an access code.
Before doing that - what happened do the TCU? Other posts from you suggest that you changed the battery on the TCU? Can you undo / check that? To my (own ) experience 'new' faults are almost always caused by unsuccessful attempts to fix things. Undoing unsuccessful attempts may hopefully bring you back to where just the TCU did not work.


Good luck.
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Old Jan 5, 2024 | 02:20 PM
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Yes, I have a new main battery and a new telematics (TCU) backup battery, however, I did not put the car into "service mode" before I installed either one, as I knew nothing about it. I'm not sure if that causes an issue or not. My car is one of the x760 under this TSB:

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...42401-9999.pdf

I saw a few people talking about using vehcom to get an access code, but I had no luck. Have you personally used it and it work?


XE
XF

16-17MY
A customer may
express a no start
concern.

UponinvestigationatechnicianmayfindthattheTelematicsControlModule
(TCU) is not reporting on the network. Further investigation into the TCU may
reveal water intrusion as the root cause of the failure. Through water testing
vehicles, the source of the water intrusion has been found to be from the
grommet behind the Center High Mount Stop Lamp (CHMSL). There is a new
part number for the grommet, T2R14098.On the flip side, if a vehicle has a
water leak from this area, but not a no start concern, the TCU should still be
checked for water intrusion to prevent future failures of the module.

SSM 73814
SSM 73854
 
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Old Jan 9, 2024 | 04:55 AM
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The tsb talks about water ingress, I assume that's not what you experienced? Or did you notice water ingress in the TCU?
Since the TCU is still not communicating after your attempt to fix it, either the fix attempt was done wrong, or the TCU has yet another issue and needs replacement.

Reprogramming used modules works on the (older) X250, but I'm not sure if you can reprogram a used TCU to your XE. Looking at the costs of used TCUs you might want to give it a shot.
On my XF most tasks can be done without being in Expert mode, including reprogramming of modules. Usually service mode is only required for certain tasks, like adding or removing functionalities. But again, XE is a different animal so things might be different.

Yes, I used the service a few times. You need to register and login to make it work.

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Old Jan 9, 2024 | 06:45 PM
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Well I went through a car wash and the SOS Not Available hasn't gone off. I did FINALLY get it to crank afterwards by repeatedly hitting the SOS button and the light finally came on and it started. Then it rained really hard and did the same stuff again. I did see condensation, but as far as water getting inside the TCU, I dont see any corosion or anything. The motherboard looks completely fine as far as I can tell. I believe you can reprogram used modules with some type of third party software, but I just dont know if you can with SDD. There was another guy that said he was able to do it, but he also said it didn't fix the "no start" problem. He said another guy had to do something else to allow the car to start - maybe with the BCM/GWM?
 
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Old Jan 10, 2024 | 07:49 PM
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If you have a vci or a j2534-passthru, I can help you replace the TCU, and most likely there will be other modules that are going to need fixing/configuration.
PM/contact me if you still need help with this.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2024 | 03:13 PM
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Hi to all.
I encounter a problem with a jaguar x260 ,the srs module got damaged .I bought a used one and need some help with coding.
can anyone help ?
 
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Old Jun 8, 2024 | 06:57 PM
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Hi Chris,
I recently purchased a 2015 XFR. Thought it’s minor fix. We just replaced one door lock module, now all 4 door locks work. Still no central lock and unlock. Basically the car doesn’t lock secured when parked. I read it could be this SDD.
There’s a Jaguar/LR software to purchase on eBay. Provided I have a Windows laptop and cables.

what should I do? I just need to be able to lock the car.
thanks!
 
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Old Dec 5, 2024 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Tech_JLR
If you have a vci or a j2534-passthru, I can help you replace the TCU, and most likely there will be other modules that are going to need fixing/configuration.
PM/contact me if you still need help with this.
are u able to give me a hand. I have a few that i need to reprogram due to failure and am needing some help.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2024 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by jeepguy19
are u able to give me a hand. I have a few that i need to reprogram due to failure and am needing some help.
Yes i can help, contact me at
remotediagjlr gmail
 
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Originally Posted by Tech_JLR
If you have a vci or a j2534-passthru, I can help you replace the TCU, and most likely there will be other modules that are going to need fixing/configuration.
PM/contact me if you still need help with this.
im having similar issues and so frustrated at this point. I have had my 2009 supercharged xf for about 3 months now . Noticed key fob issues .. doors don’t lock always have a trunk open code and for a min couldn’t get glove box to open or any of the touch features. Changed a fuse and glove box fixed. Anyways backing out of drive way and it gets stuck in neutral. Won’t move. I thought it might have something to do with the new brake pedal I got for it that didn’t fit but used anyways but told has nothing to do with it?? Since this tragic day my partner tells me the motherboard is fried from water and I need a new alternator. I work on cars myself but not great with computers . I like to know and research every step to spec before fixing anything … he does not. We replaced alternator but in the process he left out the bolt from undoing passenger side motor mount and killed the battery in The process ..after this we replaced the gsm.. we have a obd but it’s taken weeks to get the cord for it. Since this has happened we drove it with it not programmed at all and it got worse . I now have the ssd program and have programmed it and was running ok and now not perfect but killed another battery and then found out it was driven with the reader plugged n but not in and now I don’t know what the hell to do. I should have worked on it myself or not let anyone else do it but I can’t go back in time. It’s Apparently throwing all of its original codes it’s had since Mike one. The ones that have stateside all of this is trans fault code which started with the gsm .. truck open, indicator lights on side that I have the low beam lights disconnected because has when going to change bulb al the wires were bare with nothing on them ..no clue why! And tire pressure monitor. I don’t understand it was fine and then it wasn’t . Someone please any helpful advice…?
 
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Old Dec 22, 2024 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by acacia8685
im having similar issues and so frustrated at this point. I have had my 2009 supercharged xf for about 3 months now . Noticed key fob issues .. doors don’t lock always have a trunk open code and for a min couldn’t get glove box to open or any of the touch features. Changed a fuse and glove box fixed. Anyways backing out of drive way and it gets stuck in neutral. Won’t move. I thought it might have something to do with the new brake pedal I got for it that didn’t fit but used anyways but told has nothing to do with it?? Since this tragic day my partner tells me the motherboard is fried from water and I need a new alternator. I work on cars myself but not great with computers . I like to know and research every step to spec before fixing anything … he does not. We replaced alternator but in the process he left out the bolt from undoing passenger side motor mount and killed the battery in The process ..after this we replaced the gsm.. we have a obd but it’s taken weeks to get the cord for it. Since this has happened we drove it with it not programmed at all and it got worse . I now have the ssd program and have programmed it and was running ok and now not perfect but killed another battery and then found out it was driven with the reader plugged n but not in and now I don’t know what the hell to do. I should have worked on it myself or not let anyone else do it but I can’t go back in time. It’s Apparently throwing all of its original codes it’s had since Mike one. The ones that have stateside all of this is trans fault code which started with the gsm .. truck open, indicator lights on side that I have the low beam lights disconnected because has when going to change bulb al the wires were bare with nothing on them ..no clue why! And tire pressure monitor. I don’t understand it was fine and then it wasn’t . Someone please any helpful advice…?
I might be able to help remotely diagnose the issue, but going off what you mentioned, I need to diagnose the vehicle using your sdd setup or we can also use aftermarket tools like autel/launch etc......
But put in mind this might take a lot of time and patience. Unfortunately sdd wont give us the silver bullet answer to fix this, so we have to diagnose it.
 
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Originally Posted by Tech_JLR
I might be able to help remotely diagnose the issue, but going off what you mentioned, I need to diagnose the vehicle using your sdd setup or we can also use aftermarket tools like autel/launch etc......
But put in mind this might take a lot of time and patience. Unfortunately sdd wont give us the silver bullet answer to fix this, so we have to diagnose it.
what would I need to do on the sdd ? Just let me know I. An send screen shots or whatever u need
 
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Originally Posted by acacia8685
what would I need to do on the sdd ? Just let me know I. An send screen shots or whatever u need
You need to diagnose the issue with SDD... the only way I can help is using your tools I'll remotely connect and diagnose the issue.
if you're trying to do this on your own, i would start with reading on this forum and online what others have done to fix their vehicle, put in mind not every situation is the same, but research as much as you can before you start fixing anything on the vehicle.
 
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