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To trade or not to trade?!?!

Old Oct 13, 2014 | 06:45 PM
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My former dealer sent me a letter offering to trade my 2010 XF for a new 2014 and keep my payments the same or less with no money down. Well, I called to find out what the "deal" was.
It seams the older XF's are in high demand and mine having 20k left on the warranty, and my 10-12k in equity puts mine in a good position to trade. Also, now with the XE formal launch and a new XF on the way, the 2014's on the lots are not selling as desired. I'd never have thought about trading after all I've done with my XF but that new cat smell is tantalizing!
I gave him the requirements. 1- Lunar, stratus or vapor gray, 2- black interior, 3- comparable appointments to my premium edition, 4- fold down rear seats.
I'm pretty tough on this list
Lets see what happens!
My XF looks pretty darn good now!
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 11:42 PM
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Make sure you're not getting the 2.0l even though it meets all your "requirements."
 
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Old Oct 14, 2014 | 05:36 AM
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Make sure you're not getting the 2.0l even though it meets all your "requirements."
Sorry, that was also an issue. Wasn't a fan when I test drove it a few months ago. I travel a lot and had considered in hopes to save on fuel but its numbers weren't enough to justify the seriously underpowered and un-jag sound.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2014 | 11:24 AM
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Which engine do you have? If your car is still in very nice shape I'm not sure I would be really happy exchanging a V8 for a V6 even with the supercharging.


Just say'n
 
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Old Oct 14, 2014 | 01:04 PM
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I am still surprised they killed the NA 5.0L. It's such a perfect engine in this car.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2014 | 01:47 PM
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Yeah the 20k left on warranty would be what would help make my decision. After that, it would be up to you whether or not you want to extend the debt out a few more years for a new car. That's what it comes down to when you talk about similar payments.

Personally, I go through cars every 2-3 years at the longest and with cars being a massively depreciating asset (especially Jags) I never choose to pay off any vehicle when interest rates on loans are so low. I would rather keep my cash tied up in investments that are making 13%-36% right now (other than the beating the market is taking recently). So for me, a new warranty and a new car for the same or less would make sense.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2014 | 04:40 PM
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To the OP, I really like the look of your car as it is. I went from a 4.2NA to the 5.0NA in the XF and even though I really liked the grunt in the 5.0, the sound wasn't anywhere near as good as the 4.2.


I also hated the new style HDD setup with the touchscreen etc which was massively slower than the blue one, and a lot more fiddly so I'd keep hitting the wrong buttons with my banana fingers.


Aside from that, though, the 2012 model was an improvement with the seats and I thought looked magic with the angel eyes. But pretty much within 12 months of buying it I bought the XKR mainly because I'd had the XFs for about 5 1/2 years by then and I was ready for something else - as long as it was Jaggy - and I didn't really need the back seats with the kids growing up.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2014 | 05:44 AM
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I've usually traded every 2-3 years if not more as well. This is the first car I really don't want to trade! But I'm having some issues and if they can't get them sorted, I may decide in favor of a new one. There's an issue with the rpm's revving too high and too long when shifting gears, and its totally random. They reprogrammed oa couple months ago but nothing changed and getting worse. And my touch screen is starting to get very dark with cold weather, to the point I can't see at all I'd it's below 40 degrees. It finally lightens back up,as car gets warm but that's not a warranty issue and its $$$$$ to replace.

As for finding the one I would want, seems threat seat fold down is the problem. I can't believe they made it an option!!! And it all because they wanted to push sales of the damn estate, but we don't have it here in USA. They did find a silver one with most of my options but wasn't really wanting silver. Argh!!!!!
 
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It'd have to be totally black packed and rear spoiler, tint , something. Just to bland for me!!
 
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Old Oct 15, 2014 | 08:17 AM
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Yeah if you are going to do it, make sure you get the one you want. I would ping a couple different dealers. I ended up finding my XFR out of a dealership in Milwaukee
 
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Old Oct 23, 2014 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by lotusespritse
I am still surprised they killed the NA 5.0L. It's such a perfect engine in this car.


I agree!!
 
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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 10:06 AM
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Update.
Keeping mine. The offer was an insult!!
I HATE when I go in and tell them up front exactly what I can do and they waste my time with an offer through the roof!!
 
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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by philhef
It seams the older XF's are in high demand and mine having 20k left on the warranty, and my 10-12k in equity puts mine in a good position to trade.
You might be surprised to hear that all car owners are likely to be told this by their dealers from Hyundai's to Porsches.

It's just a typical sales tactic to get you in the dealership and hope you fall for a bad deal with lipstick on it. They love people that are all about "keeping their payments the same." That's an easy way for them to play with the numbers and get those people signed up on a bad deal.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by lotusespritse
You might be surprised to hear that all car owners are likely to be told this by their dealers from Hyundai's to Porsches.

It's just a typical sales tactic to get you in the dealership and hope you fall for a bad deal with lipstick on it. They love people that are all about "keeping their payments the same." That's an easy way for them to play with the numbers and get those people signed up on a bad deal.


I agree......your payment may stay the same, but the term of the loan will most likely be extended out another 2-3 years.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2014 | 01:35 AM
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Philhef - I think it is funny that you thought you would get a deal ! Car salesman are just that there is no deals to be had until they are in trouble. The deal is always on the second hand not the new cars.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2014 | 06:04 AM
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Philhef - I think it is funny that you thought you would get a deal ! Car salesman are just that there is no deals to be had until they are in trouble. The deal is always on the second hand not the new cars.
That's the point. This was a pre-owned select car. It was a loaner vehicle.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by lotusespritse
You might be surprised to hear that all car owners are likely to be told this by their dealers from Hyundai's to Porsches.

It's just a typical sales tactic to get you in the dealership and hope you fall for a bad deal with lipstick on it. They love people that are all about "keeping their payments the same." That's an easy way for them to play with the numbers and get those people signed up on a bad deal.
Agree 100%
I get the same "come-on" letters from local Chevy and Nissan dealers. They want me to believe that there is a line of buyers waiting to buy my used cars. Letters go right in the trash bucket.

Joel
 
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