XJ ( X351 ) 2009 - 2019

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Old Feb 11, 2020 | 07:00 PM
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4 months ago I baught a 2011 sc, beautifull car... one week later sunroof shade craking... first repair... then clank noise on front suspension... second repair... on month later hazzard lights flashing for no reason, even at night when car closed, waiting for a new panel one month waiting... 3 days after going on highway low coolant level... over heated engine... stop and something brake a hose and lose all the coolant... thankfully I baught it with a warranty... return it... never again... first and last time with a jag... so sorry for my english... greatings from Chile...
 
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Old Feb 11, 2020 | 07:57 PM
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I'm truly sorry the car didn't work out for you, but what exactly are you trying to accomplish by posting this on a forum whose members love their Jags?
 
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Old Feb 12, 2020 | 09:55 AM
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The car sounds like it was beat to death and then you purchased it.
Did you do any inspections prior to purchase?
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Old Feb 12, 2020 | 10:08 AM
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yes I did... so dissapointed with it... For the time I got it I love it... but allways driving it with some scare of faillure... its a beautifull car... run as devil... but couldn’t enjoy it...


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The car sounds like it was beat to death and then you purchased it.
Did you do any inspections prior to purchase?
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Old Feb 12, 2020 | 11:51 AM
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The next time you buy a 10 year old luxury car, have a qualified mechanic inspect it.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2020 | 10:00 PM
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Yes it was a 10 year old car, but can any of us on the forum say that these cars are not more trouble prone than most? It takes a "certain" person who is willing to accept quite a bit of uncertainty about the reliability of car to be happy owning an older Jag. I would not buy a used, later model, expensive Jaguar without a warranty. I'll take a chance on a cheap old Jag but can't afford to take too big a risk.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2020 | 12:07 AM
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My 2011 XJL Supercharged was three years old when I bought it for $46,000. Thank God it had warranty because I had things happen to that car that I've never had with ANY other vehicle! It was a true beauty in flawless condition and always dealer maintained, but my ownership experience soured me on the idea of another Jaguar as well. I wish I had read some negative posts before I wasted my money. It may have saved me a lot of time, trouble, and money!

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Old Feb 13, 2020 | 11:58 AM
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Yes it's sometimes hit or miss.

My 2014 XJR has been the best car I have ever owned. At 42K miles I have had 2 repairs. Replaced the water pump under warranty. A well known problem and then after warranty I had to replace 1 O2 sensor.
My previous S Type R I drove daily until about 130K miles and only sold it to get something newer. I had very little repairs and it never left me stranded and was never towed for repairs.
I do recommend DIY only after warranty but not everyone can or is willing to do it.

Shows how valuable this forum is because all the problems have been seen before and the repairs are documented.
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Old Feb 13, 2020 | 12:20 PM
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I purposefully buy my Jags with high mileage because you get a better deal, you know the car has gone through its shakedown cruise, and I DIY everything. And I love the surprise on people's faces when I tell them the car has over 100k miles. Where else can you get a newer model supercharged V8 luxo-barge for under $30k? Used Jaguars are the best kept secret in the auto world.

Jaguars are not...and I repeat...NOT more prone to reliability issues than any other luxury brand. Ze Germans do not...and I repeat...DO NOT deserve their bulletproof reputation any longer.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2020 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rivguy
I would not buy a used, later model, expensive Jaguar without a warranty. I'll take a chance on a cheap old Jag but can't afford to take too big a risk.
You pay upfront or you pay later or you don't pay at all and risk catastrophic failure and write-off. When you buy a formerly $100K car, you have to expect the costs to correspond to that MSRP.

My F-type is an absolutely glorious disaster in a way only Jaguar could ever be with a new car warranty absorbing most of it. I love the car (and it isn't the only car I have) can afford it, so why not? It isn't like top-end BMW or Mercedes would be any better. Comparatively, Jaguars are less expensive to fix and more reliable than BMW and less expensive to fix and about as reliable as Mercedes.

If you want a reliable large sedan you could always buy a Lexus.
 

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Old Feb 13, 2020 | 12:49 PM
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Bought my lovely black 2002 XJR for $6K, drove it for 3 years, and sold if for $7K. 140K miles on the clock when I sold it. Only repair bill was for fuel pumps which I didn't feel like doing myself.

Very dependable with that Mercedes transmission, I did stick a new water pump in as a precaution, and replaced a few bushings, ball joints, and front shocks.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2020 | 12:51 PM
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Someone, somewhere is still driving all-original Yugo with nothing but an oil changes.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2020 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SinF
Someone, somewhere is still driving all-original Yugo with nothing but an oil changes.
and they have my sympathy
 
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Old Feb 13, 2020 | 02:22 PM
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It can be pot luck with any car when you buy it, I got particularly lucky when I bought my 2011 XJL from new, I had it 8 1/2 years and covered about 107000 miles.
always maintained by my local dealer and apart from consumables like tyres and brakes etc I would guess there was no more than £1000 spent on repairs in that time.
always serviced by the book and I would still have it now had a drunk driver not written it off last August.
I replaced it with an early 2015 model with 37000 miles and have now covered about 10000 miles in this one so far, going in for an MOT and service next week..
 

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Old Feb 14, 2020 | 06:09 AM
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Hmm, my first car was a Jag ser 1 xj6 lwb, which I fully restored and blueprinted an V8 iron heart, I knew every single nut and bolt panel and electrical switch, relay and connection intimately lol. Spent 10 times what the car was worth to build my first car love.

I am now just under 3 months and 2000km into the ownership of my 2011 XJ 5.0 SC Portfolio, 62000km on the odo now, the way so many rave on about these Jags you would swear it is due to be towed to the dismantlers for wrecking.

I sold my Audi Quattro A4 3.0 TDI 2009 with 113,000km on the clock, I purchased her used, with 54,000km. less than a week into ownership, new egr cooler, 6 months later new rotors and pads front and rear, then Engine and Transmission mounts, then Transmission flush and oil change despite manual saying lifetime, then front upper and lower control arms and guess what, another egr cooler, that was enough for me, I sold her with a list of further work needing to be done after my last service cost me $5,500.

My point being cars don't last forever, we use them on crap roads, in all manner of conditions, we drive them hard at times and depending on the owner the maintenance is never just log book servicing.
After warranty REGARDLESS OF BUILD MANUFACTURER, our 4 wheel loves are a never ending source of outgoings, just like having kids, and just like having kids vehicle ownership entails responsibility.
Some may say the trick is to only buy one that the previous owner has maintained correctly but even that is not enough, buying a name and beautiful lines is not for everyone, or every used jag would be immaculate. In truth, as with all things new or used there are miscellaneous variables of unforseen circumstance (risk)

IDK guys n gals, I utterly love my XJ, my Growler is mind-blowingly unbelievable both to drive and to own, she has only ever had her water pump, all rotors and pads replaced as far as I know by her service history.
A few people have driven her, that I feel are worthy to and would appreciate her, they all have patted me on the back on the purchase of an vehicle in such good condition for my buy price. I anticipate bushings and etc and trans oil change shortly due to age not kms and it does not phase me in the least, to my mind it is ridiculous to enter into a used vehicle expecting to spend nothing and just drive it for years with basic servicing, if we were not prepared to do so at the time of entertaining purchase we would have bought a new Hyundai or Kia instead.

Used luxury performance vehicle ownership is simply not for everyone.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2020 | 06:40 AM
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I think I had a very bad luck with it... but having this bad luck makes me think about owning another jag... just change it for an audi a7 2014 3.0T... full dealer service with 80k km... nothing sounds bad.. the truth is that cars are full of surprises... but the real for me I have allways buy used cars, VW, mitubishi, renault, and never never have so much problems... imagine I had it for 4 months and only could use it for 3 weeks.... it was a beautifull car... but maybe he didn’t want to be with me lol...

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Hmm, my first car was a Jag ser 1 xj6 lwb, which I fully restored and blueprinted an V8 iron heart, I knew every single nut and bolt panel and electrical switch, relay and connection intimately lol. Spent 10 times what the car was worth to build my first car love.


I am now just under 3 months and 2000km into the ownership of my 2011 XJ 5.0 SC Portfolio, 62000km on the odo now, the way so many rave on about these Jags you would swear it is due to be towed to the dismantlers for wrecking.

I sold my Audi Quattro A4 3.0 TDI 2009 with 113,000km on the clock, I purchased her used, with 54,000km. less than a week into ownership, new egr cooler, 6 months later new rotors and pads front and rear, then Engine and Transmission mounts, then Transmission flush and oil change despite manual saying lifetime, then front upper and lower control arms and guess what, another egr cooler, that was enough for me, I sold her with a list of further work needing to be done after my last service cost me $5,500.

My point being cars don't last forever, we use them on crap roads, in all manner of conditions, we drive them hard at times and depending on the owner the maintenance is never just log book servicing.
After warranty REGARDLESS OF BUILD MANUFACTURER, our 4 wheel loves are a never ending source of outgoings, just like having kids, and just like having kids vehicle ownership entails responsibility.
Some may say the trick is to only buy one that the previous owner has maintained correctly but even that is not enough, buying a name and beautiful lines is not for everyone, or every used jag would be immaculate. In truth, as with all things new or used there are miscellaneous variables of unforseen circumstance (risk)

IDK guys n gals, I utterly love my XJ, my Growler is mind-blowingly unbelievable both to drive and to own, she has only ever had her water pump, all rotors and pads replaced as far as I know by her service history.
A few people have driven her, that I feel are worthy to and would appreciate her, they all have patted me on the back on the purchase of an vehicle in such good condition for my buy price. I anticipate bushings and etc and trans oil change shortly due to age not kms and it does not phase me in the least, to my mind it is ridiculous to enter into a used vehicle expecting to spend nothing and just drive it for years with basic servicing, if we were not prepared to do so at the time of entertaining purchase we would have bought a new Hyundai or Kia instead.

Used luxury performance vehicle ownership is simply not for everyone.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2020 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by marinin41
I think I had a very bad luck with it... but having this bad luck makes me think about owning another jag... just change it for an audi a7 2014 3.0T... full dealer service with 80k km... nothing sounds bad.. the truth is that cars are full of surprises... but the real for me I have allways buy used cars, VW, mitubishi, renault, and never never have so much problems... imagine I had it for 4 months and only could use it for 3 weeks.... it was a beautifull car... but maybe he didn’t want to be with me lol...
Thats sad that your ownership was so troubled, a word of caution though, if you are contemplating the diesel audi, expect to replace the egr cooler every 4 yrs or so. Its a huge job and will take a full day of labour to complete, plus parts. All new diesels seem to be troubled with egr, dpf or like issues due to euro emissions, the Audi 3.0 Tdi is a fantastic powerplant otherwise, economical and powerful. Best of luck for your next car though, i hope you manage to get some enjoyment from it, no one likes issues with their vehicles. I have only ever purchased one brand new car, delivered 2 weeks before my XJ, bought a VW Tiguan Highline with Rline pack and sound/vision packs, nothing to report i guess, nor would i expect to in only a few months of ownership, only i made the dealership do a full engine flush, filter and oil change at 1000km.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2020 | 11:46 AM
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My son-in-law who is a policeman told me about an incident he attended last night. A car was broken down in the outer lane of a dual carriageway, The driver had called the police on the emergency number. As they approached the scene there were bits of metal scattered on the road. The driver told them he had heard a loud bang and then the car slowed to a stop, They opened the engine compartment and most of the engine was missing !! The engine had suffered such a catastrophinc failure pieces of it were everywhere.

Was it a Jaguar ? No, it was a 2015 Mercedes A-Class
 
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Old Feb 14, 2020 | 11:52 AM
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Wow. I wonder what actually happened to cause that.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2020 | 12:14 PM
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Just a comment on Lightspeed's post. I agree with you that these late model used cars, are best bought by a knowledgeable enthusiast. One that has the knowledge to understand what mechanical needs the car will have, and the means to either pay for a proper shop to do the work, or do some DIY themselves. I would say that a new Jaguar can be bought by anyone, as they are reliable and have a warranty to provide a feeling of security. Ask anyone who has owned an old Porsche , Mercedes, or Jaguar long term, and they will tell you that they have made a commitment to keeping it properly serviced. They never considered the car to be a cheap beater and treated it that way. If they had than owning the car wouldn't be a satisfying experience, instead it would be an exercise in frustration that results in the car being sold, and the owner soured on these exclusive marques. It does take the ability and willingness to spend a bit of money, but think of how much a new Camry would set you back. I am not quite that able, but I try to do it on a lesser price point.
 
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