XJ XJ6 / XJ8 / XJR ( X350 & X358 ) 2003 - 2009

Challenging Restricted mode issue

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 03-27-2023, 03:08 PM
dsnyder586's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Costa Mesa, CA
Posts: 2,134
Received 540 Likes on 421 Posts
Default Challenging Restricted mode issue

Hi All!

This one is stumping me. Car goes into restricted mode, with an open circuit injector 1 issue. Here are the facts:

Happens at 140 degrees F like a clock.
After car is warmed up (over 200) NO ISSUES.
Replaced both upstream and one downstream cat.
Fogged intake, no leaks.
Runs smooth as silk when warmed up, idle is a little rough when cold.

I am all out of ideas. Looking forward to some theories or resolutions- thanks in advance!
 
  #2  
Old 03-27-2023, 03:50 PM
Big Koshka's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: Nashua, NH. New England
Posts: 211
Received 75 Likes on 56 Posts
Default

If your observations are correct, I would start looking into electrical connections at the injector and the coil down to when harness leaves engine. If you have access to scope, you may want to try to see if you have a wafeform change while engine heats up.
 
  #3  
Old 03-28-2023, 03:03 AM
flatsix's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Germany
Posts: 294
Received 77 Likes on 62 Posts
Default

I suspect it was not the cats but the lambda probes that were changed. That was not wrong depending on the mileage, the probes are a wearing part.
It may be that it is a cable or ground problem, you can measure to find out. Would be helpful if you state the exact DTC's here.

Fritz
 
  #4  
Old 03-28-2023, 10:45 AM
dsnyder586's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Costa Mesa, CA
Posts: 2,134
Received 540 Likes on 421 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by flatsix
I suspect it was not the cats but the lambda probes that were changed. That was not wrong depending on the mileage, the probes are a wearing part.
It may be that it is a cable or ground problem, you can measure to find out. Would be helpful if you state the exact DTC's here.

Fritz
Point taken-

Code is P0201
Happens at EXACTLY 132 degrees, if cleared will return all the way to 203 degrees. Like a clock. Then no codes or restricted performance. Its like two temp sensors aren't jiving and the car throws a code but then once it hits operating temp all is well.
 
  #5  
Old 03-28-2023, 03:04 PM
dsnyder586's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Costa Mesa, CA
Posts: 2,134
Received 540 Likes on 421 Posts
Default

New data point:

Ambient Temp.

This am outside temp was about 60 degrees=CODE/Restricted mode
Went to work, came back out, outside temp- 70 degrees, engine cold(ish) definitely below 140. =NO CODE

hmph.
 
  #6  
Old 03-29-2023, 04:51 AM
JagV8's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Yorkshire, England
Posts: 26,661
Received 4,488 Likes on 3,905 Posts
Default

The Jaguar details on P0201 are in this thread's (AJ3X ...) PDF(s)

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...t-code-266729/

Nothing to do with cats, O2 sensors, etc AFAIK
 
  #7  
Old 03-29-2023, 05:22 AM
flatsix's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Germany
Posts: 294
Received 77 Likes on 62 Posts
Default

DTC P0201 can be a fault on the injector itself or on the circuit. To clarify this I would replace the injector from cyl. 1 with another from e.g cyl. 2. If the error is migrating, i.e. the DTC is P0202, the injector is most likely the problem.
If after the exchange the error is still P0201, there is a cable problem. The WSM contains pin point tests for measuring the supply voltage, resistors, continuity tests and ground faults.

So you need a little knowledge of automotive electronics, a multimeter and a WSM. The pages from the WSM I could post here, but complete download of a X350 WSM can also be found on the net.
Don't think the outside temperature dependence is helpful at this stage.

Fritz
 
  #8  
Old 03-29-2023, 10:44 AM
dsnyder586's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Costa Mesa, CA
Posts: 2,134
Received 540 Likes on 421 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by flatsix
DTC P0201 can be a fault on the injector itself or on the circuit. To clarify this I would replace the injector from cyl. 1 with another from e.g cyl. 2. If the error is migrating, i.e. the DTC is P0202, the injector is most likely the problem.
If after the exchange the error is still P0201, there is a cable problem. The WSM contains pin point tests for measuring the supply voltage, resistors, continuity tests and ground faults.

So you need a little knowledge of automotive electronics, a multimeter and a WSM. The pages from the WSM I could post here, but complete download of a X350 WSM can also be found on the net.
Don't think the outside temperature dependence is helpful at this stage.

Fritz
Good points. I ordered replacement injectors and will install/report back next week the result. Looks like maybe the injector is leaking, and the monitor is kicking back a problem.
 
  #9  
Old 10-12-2023, 06:03 PM
dsnyder586's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Costa Mesa, CA
Posts: 2,134
Received 540 Likes on 421 Posts
Default

To close this out and hopefully help others: I unplugged and replugged the ABS connector a few times and RP did not come back. Nada. No more lean misfire codes, no more restricted performance, passed smog. I did not do anything else to the car but this. Not sure how they are connected, but they are.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
mscott
XK8 / XKR ( X100 )
6
11-27-2019 12:01 PM
Dymaxxion
XK / XKR ( X150 )
5
07-02-2018 11:29 AM
69ra3ta
XJ XJ8 / XJR ( X308 )
12
02-07-2015 01:42 PM
03blackjagstr
S-Type / S type R Supercharged V8 ( X200 )
25
01-21-2015 03:13 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: Challenging Restricted mode issue



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:47 PM.