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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 12:55 PM
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Default ECM Not Communicating With SDD - RESOLVED

I'm sure this has been answered somewhere in this forum, but I'll ask here. I was re-flashing my 2004 xjr (X350) using Mongoose Pro (not a clone), and SDD v131.02, when the battery voltage dropped a little, now the car won't start. The SDD does not recognize the VIN and cannot communicate with the ECM. Is there a "simple" fix for this, or do I have to bite the bullet and visit the dealer? Any help is appreciated.


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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 01:54 PM
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https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ng-ecu-139181/

Read this thread.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 02:26 PM
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Thanks, I'll read it. Another question is, do I try to re-flash as existing or new ECM?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 02:30 PM
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Often repeated, but didn't you do the reflash with a stabilised voltage power supply?
 
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I didn't, That's how I ended up in this situation. Now that that's established. Any solutions on how to recover from my error?
 
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Originally Posted by joeleerj
Thanks, I'll read it. Another question is, do I try to re-flash as existing or new ECM?
In one of the posts in that thread someone who apparently bricked the ECM used SDD to reflash something else, I forgot what right now, and it worked for him.

You really need a battery support system as Paydase mentions.

LOTS of horror stories with people not doing that when reflashing.

This is it.

"Re-configured the 'Generic Electronic Module' as 'SDD' called it and everything is back to where it was". Post #10

May or may not help you.
 

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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 02:52 PM
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Thanks, I'm searching for a "battery support system" as we speak. Any suggestion? Will an ordinary battery charger work?
 
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Originally Posted by joeleerj
Thanks, I'm searching for a "battery support system" as we speak. Any suggestion? Will an ordinary battery charger work?
I do not think so. Others will have to chime in here.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 03:11 PM
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NO!
You need a specific "stabilised" power supply, with a voltage that can be set at about 13.6 Volts.
A standard battery charger, even more the intelligent battery chargers, vary the voltage during the charging cycle, so this does not fit.
There are cheap chinese stabilised power supplies for 50-100 USD on ebay that can do the job in principle, Jaguar recommends a much more expensive (ca. 400 USD) quality device capable of 60 amps, you need at least 30 amps but better take a 50 amps.
Look for threads on the issue, there are many
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 03:28 PM
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Thanks Paydase, do you recommend a specific brand/model?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 03:54 PM
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As you're in the US, you can have these ones, very good and cheaper than the Jag reommended one:
http://www.iotaengineering.com/pplib...duct_Guide.pdf
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by joeleerj
thanks paydase, do you recommend a specific brand/model?
astron power supply ss-50. 13.8vdc 50a.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 06:42 PM
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astron power supply ss-50. 13.8vdc 50a.
Yep, even better if you keep it in your garage (25 kgs...)
Probably many of them, used, can be found in the US.
I was lucky to source a used VS-50 in Belgium
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by paydase
Yep, even better if you keep it in your garage (25 kgs...)
Probably many of them, used, can be found in the US.
I was lucky to source a used VS-50 in Belgium
I had a key programmed last week. Brutal had a large roll around power supply. It was big and heavy.
It looked more like a battery charger. I have used regulated supplies at work for years. This definately looked more like a charger.
Worked great, key was programmed in 20 minutes or so.
He is a Master Tech, if a charger would not be stable he would not use it.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Panelhead
I had a key programmed last week. Brutal had a large roll around power supply. It was big and heavy.
It looked more like a battery charger. I have used regulated supplies at work for years. This definately looked more like a charger.
Worked great, key was programmed in 20 minutes or so.
He is a Master Tech, if a charger would not be stable he would not use it.
I won't speak for Brutal as the man knows what he's doing but this is JLR's position
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 09:32 PM
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Thanks for the TSB, I"ll check around and price one
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 09:36 PM
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Thanks, I think I saw one of these at the pawn shop the other day. I check again tomorrow to see if it's still available and the price. You guys are a wealth of info and knowledge.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 09:53 PM
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Hey guys, I'll find and purchase one of these and report back after I've tried it. Thanks for all of your very good input.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 10:23 PM
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Have any idea what kind Brutal used?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2017 | 08:06 AM
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I got this one and it has worked good the couple of times I have had to use it. They also make a 50 amp version as well. In retrospect I should have gotten the 50 as it does, in my opinion, push the limits of the 30 amp. This is on my 2004 VDP

MFJ-4230MV 30 amp variable switching power supply 0 - 13.8vdc
 
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