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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 10:21 AM
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Greetings,

I noticed the upper part of the glove box door is not flush with the dash (see picture).


If I press on it, it will move and potentially sit flush if fixed.

The question is, did any of you had a similar issue and how did you fix it? I'm thinking glue.

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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 11:55 AM
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My 06 glove box lid is similar. I haven't yet tried to adjust it, so I am also interested in the responses. And if anyone has a suggestion to add some spring tension to the latch on the center cubby lid that keeps popping up, I'd appreciate that too.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 12:13 PM
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I'm not surprised it's not flush - some idiot's hacked out the steering column and not cut it short enough! (Sorry guys),

Seriously though - if it's an X308 the catch blocks in the glovebox are adjustable (but beggars to undo!). Loosen the screws and (using your most petite persuader), tap the block towards the firewall.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 12:45 PM
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This TSB may be useful to read.

501-05 Glove Compartment Lid Latching Issues B501-10.pdf
 
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 12:50 PM
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Actually it is the soft cover that is not sitting flush with the glove box lid and dash. The lid closes properly but the cover (soft padded material) either lost the shape or came unglued.
 

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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 01:07 PM
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If the outer vinyl cover is delaminating from the structural part of the glovebox lid, you should be able to repair it with a suitable adhesive.

On our '04, the striker latch needed adjustment. Here's a link to some photos:

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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BlacXJRcat
Actually it is the soft cover that is not sitting flush with the glove box lid and dash.
Oh now I understand. Funnily enough I have the same problem, delaminating, but at the bottom of the glovebox cover. I tried some hot meltglue and clamps but that didn't hold so I have to find that magic adhesive that Don B has Ok Don what do you recommend?
 
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by hafren
Oh now I understand. Funnily enough I have the same problem, delaminating, but at the bottom of the glovebox cover. I tried some hot meltglue and clamps but that didn't hold so I have to find that magic adhesive that Don B has Ok Don what do you recommend?
I'd like some of that magic adhesive too. I may attempt some 3M dual sided tape.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by hafren
I tried some hot meltglue and clamps but that didn't hold so I have to find that magic adhesive that Don B has Ok Don what do you recommend?

LOL hafren!

I'm not surprised that hot-melt glue didn't hold - I've never had much success using it on plastics.

There are all kinds of plastics used in automotive interiors, but if I had to guess, I'd guess the glovebox trim cover is made of ABS. In the factory, the parts may have been bonded together with heat, but there are adhesives made just for ABS available at home stores, craft stores and probably auto parts stores.

JB Weld makes a glue called PlasticWeld that is excellent and comes in a dual-syringe package like the instant-mix epoxies. Loctite makes a similar two-part dual-syringe plastic adhesive called Plastic Bonder. One or both of these may be available in the adhesives section of your local home or auto parts store. I think they list the types of plastics they will work with on the package - check to see if they list ABS.

Oatey makes ABS cement for plumbing but it comes in cans, and you'll get a lot more glue than you need. Also, it would probably be messy to apply with the swab applicator.

3M makes all kinds of industrial plastic adhesives, some of which can sometimes be found in the body repair area of your auto parts store.

It is possible that Super Glue (cyanoacrylate) would work, but since it can react with some plastics (acrylics?), I would avoid it.

I would also avoid Testors plastic model cement because it doesn't seem to be as strong as it was when we were kids. I assume they've changed the forumla in response to folks sniffing it to get high.

Acetone will dissolve ABS, and I've heard of folks using it to glue ABS pieces together, but I would be very hesitant to try it since it would be difficult to keep off the show face of your glovebox cover, which would permanently destroy its appearance.

Whatever glue you try, if possible, I would suggest testing a small area, perhaps the deepest part you can reach between the trim cover and the structural part of the door. If the glue works, you can then work your way from the depths to the edge to finish the job. If the glue doesn't work, you won't have a big mess that prevents a different glue from being used.

This is all conjecture on my part, so take it with a grain of salt. The parts could be made from a different type of plastic altogether, but when I've researched interior plastics in the past, ABS has been commonly used for appearance parts. Here's an example:

http://www.speautomotive.com/Awards%...or/Armrest.pdf

I'll look forward to hearing what works.

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Don
 

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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 07:56 PM
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I have repaired 3 of these now and this method works well.
Liquid nails, or construction adhesive in a calking gun works well. I used a thick paint paddle (stir stick) to protect the outside surface straight across the top edge, then used 3 small carpenters clamps and tightened them way down until flush and let sit overnight.
Be ready when tightening the clamps for some of the adhesive to press out at the top..so be ready to wipe the excess off with a couple of throw away rags.
You may want to disconnect the battery so the light does not stay on during the drying process.
Do not adjust your latches....no need.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Donzi
Liquid nails, or construction adhesive in a calking gun works well. I used a thick paint paddle (stir stick) to protect the outside surface straight across the top edge, then used 3 small carpenters clamps and tightened them way down until flush and let sit overnight.
Be ready when tightening the clamps for some of the adhesive to press out at the top..so be ready to wipe the excess off with a couple of throw away rags.
Do not adjust your latches....no need.
Great advice. I will attempt that over the weekend. Thanks.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2015 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Donzi
Do not adjust your latches....no need.
Except in my case, where the trim cover was not delaminating, and adjusting the latch resolved the problem, as reported in Post #6 of this thread.

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Old Sep 18, 2015 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Don B
Except in my case, where the trim cover was not delaminating, and adjusting the latch resolved the problem, as reported in Post #6 of this thread.

Cheers,

Don
Right, I was directing my comment to BlacXJRcat, based on the photo HE posted...showing it is bowed out in the middle.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2015 | 03:25 PM
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So over the weekend I tried to fix the glove box issue (twice). The first attempt with liquid nail failed. On the second attempt I used gel super glue and it is holding. I hope it lasts for a long time. I used a simple procedure with small clamps I bought at Lowes. See pic.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2015 | 03:32 PM
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Unreal that the liquid nail failed, did you let it stay clamped for 24 hours?
 
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Old Sep 29, 2015 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Donzi
Unreal that the liquid nail failed, did you let it stay clamped for 24 hours?
Actually a little longer. It was really hot in my garage also. Not sure if that had anything to do with it or I applied it incorrectly.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2015 | 04:53 PM
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I fixed my glove box too although my cover was coming away at the bottom of the box.

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I too tried liquid nails first, well the locatite equivalent,

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but without success the cover justs started peeling away after a day . I did leave it set for over 24 hours. So I went nuclear and used jb weld now its rock solid!
 
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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 03:11 PM
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For anyone else with a striker issue, the left side of my glove box door was hanging low, so I adjusted the left striker on the door. Took all of five minutes and fixed. Here are before and after pictures.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by chillyphilly
For anyone else with a striker issue, the left side of my glove box door was hanging low, so I adjusted the left striker on the door. Took all of five minutes and fixed. Here are before and after pictures.
All this time I thought it was just designed to not be flush. I'll be adjusting those strikers soon!
 
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Old Jan 26, 2016 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by nlt624
All this time I thought it was just designed to not be flush. I'll be adjusting those strikers soon!
That's funny. Me too. I didn't have it in my 2004, but in my 2007, I thought it was a design change, until I started reading this thread.

Now if I can just get off my lazy butt and start fixing it...
 
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