Ok, experienced XJers, what would this repair bill run to put this 05 Super in shape? Headliner, leaky front struts, new leaper installed, new parking brake calipers/shoes, all new belts incl blower.

I know about the rusty guts underneath but any car I get would look this way in a couple years here on the ocean unfortunately.

 

Headliner $600 at upholstery shop. Front strut after market rebuild $250 plus labor

 

Wow, I would have thought the opposite. Struts are only the shock dampener part then, not the airspring...

And labor on the sox? Probably pays to go with Arnott(who have the worst reputation withe Lincoln online gang-we always they ARENOT the best).

 

I live right by the water here in Florida and my car does not look like that. Looks like it has been sitting in water or exposed to salt in the northern states.

Is this yours?

Sounds like routine repairs. $200-500 for headliner, $50 for new leaper from Welsh, belts $100-$900 depending on whether the pulley TSB has been performed, new front air springs from Arnott $800 a set, calipers can be had used cheap & new pads $35

 

So much to learn-ask me anything about a Mark 8 Lincoln...

The TSB on the pulley is paid by Jag or out of pocket?Could be a good time to put an aftermarket pulley on the blower.

Not my car...yet, still considering it. It was in Charleston which apparently routinely gets flooded w/rain and also over the seawall. This one sat for maybe 18 months outside w/ old folks who are too old to use it anymore. The dealer and the private shop said it still looked better than say, a Chicago car.

 

Jaguar will not pay for that TSB as it is not a recall, so figure about $600-$900 to do the belts.

However, now that clarified it is a vehicle you are considering, I would say those pics scare me a lot and if the car has been sitting outside, even worse. There is a good chance water has done some significant damage that could creep up and cost thousands. Unless they are providing a bumper to bumper warranty or the price is so unbeatable you would have something left over to cover future repairs, I would say run away to a better deal.

 

Jeeze... that has more rust on it than my '83 XJ6! (Ok not really, but almost!)

 

And worse yet, I haven't seen it yet, yet 2 jag specialists said it was a clean, honest car otherwise-prob painted from sitting outside or under a tree. I need more closeups of the topsides. It is 5k less than the next closest Super in the US(who knows what they need, too) and then w/ 1/2 the miles on it. The mechanic was sure the car was never wet beyond the axles, never inside.

So about 3-4 to spend right away + who knows down the line, elec wiring, connectors etc.

 

hmmm....Jeff....the rust you CAN see is worrisome.....but the experience I have made is it is the rust you can't see that cause the real damage. I'd run from this one...but if you thiink it's containable for the discounted price, go for it.

 

This is obviously the car we discussed at length in the "Green" color thread along with other issues. This isn't a Chicago car, it looks flood damaged which I think would have to disclosed on the title. The headliners don't usally fall down up here. I personally don't think you need to take the Amtrak to see more. I would not invest more in this car, but the decision is your to make.

 

YEah it was a Charleston car from new but rusted like a Chitown jag. They all think it was only wet up to the belly which is common there as I mentioned by the waterfront-the Jag guy says he sees 'waterfront' cars like this all the time. Never wet inside but even so...guess I'll lower my expectations and forget about a Super for this kind of price.

 

The thing about these newer Jags that is different than old ones is that parts are incredibly expensive for everything. It doesn't take much wrong with a newer Jag for it to not make much sense in buying it, from a money standpoint.

You can try to save money buying a damaged or high mileage/older X350 but there have been plenty of people on this board who have tried that route, and have ended up having big problems!

 

What's your budget?

 

Looking at the pics of the underneath, I see nothing unusual there at all; I've seen cars up on Louis' ramp a lot worse than than and only 3 or 4 years old. Steel parts underneath are never painted very well, and soon rust on the surface, but unless getting regularly soaked in road salt solution tend to last quite a long time even though they may not look very good.

I would go on the internet and price up the parts, then allow for labour to fit. Headliner is a real nuisance, as is need for new park brake calipers. Brake pads are a regular, so nothing unusual there. Belts eventually need replacement on all cars, you're just the guy who has to pick this job up, (assuming you buy the car)

Presumably the inspection report said the front air springs were leaking, yes ? I have found an internet site selling genuine Jaguar air springs but they are around £600 (=$960) each so Arnott probably the best alternative. I do wonder sometimes why the fronts go more than the back, as they both hit the same bumps.

How many miles on this car ?

 

The two ways to go are shop work or shade tree work.
Shade tree costs: Headliner $500 (shop only, results too unreliable for shade tree)
Front air springs/shocks $800, Belts, $84, rear calipers and pads, $250 rebuilt.
Shop costs for the same: $500, $3500, $350, $650. These numbers are for an honest shop not selling you everything they can get away with.

 

45k on the car, it's the dampers that are leaking as in photos-air springs are ok for now.

Budget of $14-20 on the outside edge. And aside form in here, most any 8 I buy will need these typical fix's unless they have receipts for that work...

 

Well, it would be unusual for them to be leaking at 45k miles, because the damper is protected by the rubber bellows. Sometimes mechanics can squirt WD40 around when maintaining a car, and that is what you might have here. Anyway, the bottom line is that the shocks are an intrinsic part of the air spring assembly, and not separately replaceable. I have not seen any posts so far on shock leaks, only air spring leaks, but there is always the first time, of course !

Frankly, you really do need to see a car before buying one. And test driving it too.

 

I've pretty much written this one off regardless of spring leaks. I would drive up and test it 1st before shelling out-no excuse not to with it only 7 hours away.

 

OK, now after talking with the wildly overpriced dealer's service rep, he claims the car was NOT painted(indy Jag tech said it was done very well), shox are NOT leaking oil(agreed that the air goes 1st, not the dampers) so maybe it IS WD40 and ran through the service history. they bought the car there and had the 35k and even the 60 k service done, LOTS of replaced stuff under warranty but not the pulley TSB.

DVD player, cruise sensor, all brakes/rotors(NOT the park brake though and he said the calipers were NOT frozen), and some other pieces replaced as well.

Still would be nice to find a cleaner one though unless I can beat him up on the price more but not likely.

 

Well, here's something I read in a general's memoirs:

He either fears his fate too much
Or his deserts are small
Who fears to put it to the touch
To win or lose it all