1996 XJR misfiring and blowing black smoke
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Most likely the coolant temperature sensor. That controls the cold enrichment, so it's possible the ECU is thinking the engine is cold and adding extra fuel. You can measure the resistance it should be ~ 200 ohms at operating temperature. It's a standard Bosch sort of curve that changes with temperature.
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Next likely culprit in the air flow meter. It's unique to the XJR and now NLA, so your only option is a used one off ebay or a place like Coventry West. As a quick and dirty test, try unplugging it and see what happens. It shroud run a bit rich all over, but not black clouds rich.
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Windell (05-11-2017)
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I know this sounds silly, but make sure the battery is fully charged. I once had an issue where my XJR felt like it had hit a rev limiter at around 4000rpm. The fault developed after my water pump failed wetting the alternator - short story charging the battery fixed it.
Also the only other time I had a running issue was due to corrosion on the ECU connectors - It felt like fuel contamination and caused me a lot of messing. Use contact cleaner on them, not WD40 or similar as the residue cause issues believe it or not!
Also the only other time I had a running issue was due to corrosion on the ECU connectors - It felt like fuel contamination and caused me a lot of messing. Use contact cleaner on them, not WD40 or similar as the residue cause issues believe it or not!
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Windell (05-12-2017)
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Any fault codes?
There has been an TSB (18-53) from jaguar regarding rich or lean running conditions, which in most cases is not the air flow meter, but the fuel pressure regulator leaking/sticking. Pull off the vacuum hose at the pressure regulator and smell if it smells like petrol which might indicate a leaking pressure regulator and excessive petrol entering the system.
It might also be a good idea to check your rochester valve.
There has been an TSB (18-53) from jaguar regarding rich or lean running conditions, which in most cases is not the air flow meter, but the fuel pressure regulator leaking/sticking. Pull off the vacuum hose at the pressure regulator and smell if it smells like petrol which might indicate a leaking pressure regulator and excessive petrol entering the system.
It might also be a good idea to check your rochester valve.
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Windell (05-24-2017)
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The ECU is behind the plastic trim panel by your feet on the right hand front door post. I guess this will be the same for left hand drive cars. The ECU connections are covered by a 'security strap' with special screws that you need to carefully drill out. The plugs are on the top and water leaking in can track down the cables and corrode the connectors. Unplug and carefully clean with contact cleaner. That cured my problem, I guess the water gets in once the drainage tray section of the firewall starts to rust through. I try to keep my car as dry as practical!
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Windell (05-30-2017)
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The ECU is behind the plastic trim panel by your feet on the right hand front door post. I guess this will be the same for left hand drive cars. The ECU connections are covered by a 'security strap' with special screws that you need to carefully drill out. The plugs are on the top and water leaking in can track down the cables and corrode the connectors. Unplug and carefully clean with contact cleaner. That cured my problem, I guess the water gets in once the drainage tray section of the firewall starts to rust through. I try to keep my car as dry as practical!
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Codes ? Might consider a EML327 live data reader to see if something goes out of wack at the point of failure , 8 dollars free shipping Ebay . There is a learning curve . Perimeters to look at are :
STFT 1 and 2
TPS
MAF
Coolent Temp
RPM
An example of one being used on a X300 page 2 :
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ong%5D-184729/
A example of it's all around features , cheaper software :
STFT 1 and 2
TPS
MAF
Coolent Temp
RPM
An example of one being used on a X300 page 2 :
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ong%5D-184729/
A example of it's all around features , cheaper software :
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someguywithajag (08-24-2017)
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I have suffered this problem twice, firstly caused by a defective pressure regulator (mentioned by Dutch-R) & second time it was the oxygen sensors (2) which I replaced.
You have a classic case of "over fuelling", & replacement of the above immediately cured the problem & I was lucky in that they were my first calls to replace.
Best start with the simple & obvious first, try not to "overthink" the problem (ie talk of ECU's etc)
John Herbert
1996 Jaguar XJR
You have a classic case of "over fuelling", & replacement of the above immediately cured the problem & I was lucky in that they were my first calls to replace.
Best start with the simple & obvious first, try not to "overthink" the problem (ie talk of ECU's etc)
John Herbert
1996 Jaguar XJR
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Stft= -25 plus but when I take revs up the the trims come down near or the -7 to 0 at approx 3000 revs.what else can make this thing rich I'm now thinking ecu...
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No ECU yet . What someone told me was 24.2 fuel trim at idle and goes toward 0.0 at throttle up is vacuum leek on the intake side . On the higher RPM could be a different issue . Can you see if the fuel trim goes to close loop on the ELM327 and it my have not meet the requirements to do so .
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No ECU yet . What someone told me was 24.2 fuel trim at idle and goes toward 0.0 at throttle up is vacuum leek on the intake side . On the higher RPM could be a different issue . Can you see if the fuel trim goes to close loop on the ELM327 and it my have not meet the requirements to do so .
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negative trim is opposite of what I picked up on in your post . Mine was positive 24.2 with obvious rich exhaust . My bad . Scratch on the leaks ? FPR too high for the minimum pulse length of the injectors ? 43 psi at idle and bumps up bit on throttle up . TPS reading 0.60 + or - 0.2 volts at idle ? Sticking open butterfly giving biased TPS readings to give it a longer pulse length ? Never mind that would cause higher idle RPMs .
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