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I just bought a 96 XJR6 with 147k miles on it. The handling on it is terrible. When I hit a humped bit of the road the car will wallow up and down for a good bit, it has zero steering feel especially at 60+ mph, theres about an inch of play before the wheels do anything. When traveling at speed i'm having to constantly saw at the steering wheel to keep the car straight. It feels dangerous.
I got under the car today and can't see any bushes that look knackard.The only thing obvious was the lateral play in the front wheel bearings. Could this all be down to the car just needing new shocks? Or are the XJR springs and XJ6 springs different and perhaps someones fitted the wrong springs presiously?
sounds like your shocks are toast - i would also recommend steering rack shims to take out the slack in the rack mount bushings - they are a pretty bad design and the steering rack gets a lot of sideways play as the bushes age.
you can find them on ebay from time to time or make your own pretty easily.
I drove an XJR6 for many years. They are sensitive to tire condition, size, and design. What tires are on the car now and what is their condition?
As mentioned these car are subject to tramlining....from mild to terrifying. This is mostly from the tires.....amplified by any wear/free play in the suspension and steering component and/or incorrect alignment settings. For most of my ownership duration I used 16" wheels. If you want to keep the 17" wheels I suggest a slightly taller and narrower tire. With the 17" wheels I had best luck with 235/50x17....or was it 235/55x17? Too many years have gone by !
I had best results with the front bearings adjusted right down to zero and not an iota more.
Also check your rear wheel bearings. They are prone to wear....sometimes with enough slop to actually alter the driving characteristics of the car
Thank you Parker. That writeup deserves a sticky-thread somewhere as I'm sure these are common enough issues with the cars getting on in age.
The rear shocks look like fresh green Bilsteins but the fronts haven't a spec of paint left on them so I assume the rears where changed (it looks to have recent rear drop links too) but the fronts still need done. I can't help but think it has the wrong springs in it, or they're also due replacement. The car sits very low, but isn't anywhere near stiff enough to assume it has lowering springs.
I drove an XJR6 for many years. They are sensitive to tire condition, size, and design. What tires are on the car now and what is their condition?
As mentioned these car are subject to tramlining....from mild to terrifying. This is mostly from the tires.....amplified by any wear/free play in the suspension and steering component and/or incorrect alignment settings. For most of my ownership duration I used 16" wheels. If you want to keep the 17" wheels I suggest a slightly taller and narrower tire. With the 17" wheels I had best luck with 235/50x17....or was it 235/55x17? Too many years have gone by !
I had best results with the front bearings adjusted right down to zero and not an iota more.
Also check your rear wheel bearings. They are prone to wear....sometimes with enough slop to actually alter the driving characteristics of the car
Cheers
DD
There's (new) 245/45 r17's on it, this could also be exagerating the issues mentioned I suppose.
Ah, my first forte into Jag ownership is going well. I thought I'd replace the headunit and speakers earlier - that turns out to be another saga entirely.
You can modify yourself the Alpine / Jaguar AJ9500A head to have a direct wire jack for any input device sacrificing the cassette function , this is different than those cassette tape devices
On the front suspension there is a aftermarket drop links known as Andy Links
On the rear the later X308 suspension cross member can be installed replacing the original rear links without removing the rear suspension unit as a whole
I endorse Parker in getting the steering rack sorted out. I suggest this as the highest priority.
I have had that problem in an XJ40 and an X300. Tram lining and erratic all over the place with bumps. Fixing the rack mounting solved a lot of problems.
If you can't get the nylon bushes then use a piece of 1/8 wire wrapped around each end over the previous rubber mounts and lock them in place with hose clamps.
That effectively makes a rigid mount from the steering rack to the body structure.
Sure, you are going to get a bit more "road feel" but it will make a hell of a lot of difference to the handling.
Also check that the rear end alignment is OK. That is often overlooked and also makes a difference in handling.
There are some short cuts and videos on the rear suspension component changes by contributors like Motorcarman ( Bob ) if you venture in that area
On the steering rack to tighten up the possible internal o - rings bypassing and possible internal rack drift under load might consider a drain / refill of 4 cycles to rejuvenate the seals and at least resolve the cavitation noise from old steering fluid
You might have noticed a bit of fluid leakage that originates from the hose clamps under the fluid reservoir that migrates everywhere on the right side
I errored on fuse circled in pic as it should be fuse # 12
You might have noticed a bit of fluid leakage that originates from the hose clamps under the fluid reservoir that migrates everywhere on the right side
I errored on fuse circled in pic as it should be fuse # 12
Regarding the fluid leek, would that be whats dripping into the drivers footwell? I noticed a brown oil was gathering on a bit of sponge above the brake pedal.
And the fuse: I was a bit confused when I was searching the car earlier for that module, it should be in the boot/trunk or the drivers footwell?
The first question / thinking , your brake booster line is in the area
Second question / it will be just fwd of the right front lower door hinge under a 1 foot square plastic cover you will most likely have 2 relay sockets empty that are just aft of the module in question
The module can be sourced from Volvo from reading and I would think BMW
You may have oil in the connector on the servo attached to the steering rack in the pic of the whole front suspension , easier said than done
There is a better servo pic in the ZF steering rack Doc from a BMW website
Now you mention it, it didn't smell like oil. It could well have been brake fluid.
I've a RHD car, and checked in the drivers footwell today with no joy, there's a big silver ECU looking box there. I'll check the passenger footwell in the morning.
From my experience the point I don't agree with in the above is about tyre size. I've got the standard 255/45/17 tyres and don't experience any tramlining on Michelin SP4s unless the road is severely rutted by heavy trucks. When I bought the car it had 235/40/17s on the front which, when considering tramlining, were no different to the 255s but they gave a much harder ride and the lower height meant that the front valence would scrape on speed humps. I think tramlining on an XJR6 stems from other suspension/steering issues. I was expecting tramlining issues when I bought the car as my previous BMW 535 suffered quite badly on 235/45/17s.
Differences in tire design and construction can play a part, even without changing size. My experience, with the original size, was the P-Zero tires were the worst, BF Goodrich KGWS the best, and the Goodyear somethings (can't remember) about in the middle. And tire choices today are probably better than they were for me years ago. In the end, going to a taller profile tire was the solution for me.
And certainly a stack-up of faults can be a problem. Alignment not quite in spec, a bit of steering rack slop, wheel bearings a bit loose, etc