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Old Jan 3, 2014 | 12:40 PM
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OK! I just bought one!

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Old Jan 4, 2014 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SNG Barratt USA
Hello,

No trouble at all. Ours does indeed have the same black sticker, all be it ours is applied straight

I don't have the ability to upload pics here unfortunately due to our server restrictions but feel free to email me and I'll send you some detailed pictures. I currently have 3 units in stock with plenty more available.

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Hi,

Do you know if that also applies to coils sold by SNG Barratt UK?

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Old Jan 4, 2014 | 05:21 PM
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WHY do these coils go bad??

what is in the design system that makes them a weak link!

i have used many coils over 40yrs old ,no problems.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 04:06 AM
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sorry I should have moved much earlier but I haven't, I have to ask TRW Japan asap.

ronbros, they go bad because they are mounted in a hole in a cam cover and exposed in heat all the time. When the inner insulator plastic cracks because of the heat, they die. Plus there seem to be a lot of Chinese made coils in the market, which might be a biggest problem.
 

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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by theJPster
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Do you know if that also applies to coils sold by SNG Barratt UK?

Cheers

Jonathan


Hello Jonathan,


Yes we list the same products across all of our branches. Providing you order the coil designated with a # you will receive the OEM 'Made In Japan' coil.


Be sure to mention JaguarForums and I'm sure they will discount the order
 
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by SNG Barratt USA
Hello Jonathan,


Yes we list the same products across all of our branches. Providing you order the coil designated with a # you will receive the OEM 'Made In Japan' coil.


Be sure to mention JaguarForums and I'm sure they will discount the order
Isn't it great to have a forum vendor helping out on the site, offering parts and services as well as advice AND discounts to members?

Kudos to you SNG
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SNG Barratt USA
Very interesting thread. Just thought I'd let you know our OEM coils as linked below are marked with the following:

Oddly, when you navigate through the website's menus, it shows the "X300" as "1994-1997 MY", which is incorrect. (or I've been misinformed all this time )
 
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by caldercay
Oddly, when you navigate through the website's menus, it shows the "X300" as "1994-1997 MY", which is incorrect. (or I've been misinformed all this time )

Where? Just wondering.

It doesn't matter much, though. In the USA the X300 model run is very definitive: 1995-96-97 "model years". That's it.

Elsewhere in the world, not so much. For some folks the "year" designation is when the car was first sold. For others, the year of manufacture.


This will always be a bit of a bugaboo.

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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug
Where? Just wondering.
At this URL: SNG Barratt - The Ultimate Jaguar Parts Specialist

No biggy, but I find it odd this is the first Jag Parts place that listed the x300 platform as year models 1994-1997. But as you state, it's not a big deal, cause we know it's 95-97
 
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by caldercay
At this URL: SNG Barratt - The Ultimate Jaguar Parts Specialist

No biggy, but I find it odd this is the first Jag Parts place that listed the x300 platform as year models 1994-1997. But as you state, it's not a big deal, cause we know it's 95-97

Silly me, I thought you were referring to something that you saw here on Jaguarforums.com

It also dawned on me that my posting might be interpreted as suggesting your remarks don't matter much. That's not what I meant . What I meant was the model year issues/confusions always will pop up no matter what anyone does, for the reasons mentioned.

This is what comes of posting before my 2nd cup of coffee.

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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by caldercay
Oddly, when you navigate through the website's menus, it shows the "X300" as "1994-1997 MY", which is incorrect. (or I've been misinformed all this time )
They've mixed up calendar years and model years. MY95 started in September '94. MY97 finished in August '97.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 06:27 AM
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SNG Barrett I believe is a British company and in England we typically think of car years based on purchase or manufacture date. We don't really have a concept of model years like here in the states.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 12:18 PM
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One thing that may be causing premature coil failure. When I bought my car at 65K miles I went in right away to check plugs. Much to my surprise the previous "lug nut" that was in there did not put the coils back with gaskets. No gaskets means higher heat transfer. I also think one should use a grease on the gaskets such as a dielectric. Grease will further insulate the coils from heat as well as reduce the static electricity transfer that causes cam cover electrosis.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by EZDriver
One thing that may be causing premature coil failure. When I bought my car at 65K miles I went in right away to check plugs. Much to my surprise the previous "lug nut" that was in there did not put the coils back with gaskets. No gaskets means higher heat transfer. I also think one should use a grease on the gaskets such as a dielectric. Grease will further insulate the coils from heat as well as reduce the static electricity transfer that causes cam cover electrosis.
Yea, I'd really like to know what happened to my Cyl #1 [cam cover] spark plug bore. It sure looks like it was zapped with some heavy duty arcing (the associated coil is just over a year old, with no cracks). From my recent post (oil in plug bores), showing obviously what is more than just "corrosion":
Webpage: XJ6 Spark Plug Boss Seal


Here's a link to a forum thread discussing this issue back in 2010:
X300 Camshaft Cover Corrosion
Ah yes, I can see what you mean, that is a brilliant insight.. A form of spark erosion! This is in actual fact is a process we sometimes use in engineering to produce deep slots in metals, say 1mm wide by 20mm deep, for example, beyond the scope of normal cutting tools which would just break if used at these depths due to their fragility.

I have a question for the group:
What about wrapping each coil in some sort of "spark shield" cloth? My knee-jerk thought is to use some HeatShield cloth I've bought from Summit racing (for another project), but it's aluminized, so not sure that's the correct solution.

CobraCloth Webpage: Cobra Heat Shield Cloth | Heatshield Products
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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ronbros
WHY do these coils go bad??

what is in the design system that makes them a weak link!

i have used many coils over 40yrs old ,no problems.
Probably not coil on plug - that's a relatively recent invention. These coils live inside the cylinder head where it gets pretty warm.

On the up side, we don't have a distributor or any HT leads to get wet.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SNG Barratt USA
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No trouble at all. Ours does indeed have the same black sticker, all be it ours is applied straight


I don't have the ability to upload pics here unfortunately due to our server restrictions but feel free to email me and I'll send you some detailed pictures. I currently have 3 units in stock with plenty more available.


Regards



YAY!

Just got the coil today and am 100% satisfied that it's 'the real thing' . It has the correct label and even the amber-colored (as opposed to black) potting compound.

My hat's off to SNG Barratt

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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 09:47 AM
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Finally they gave me an answer...

It will take a little more for me to be able to start providing the Japanese X300 coils, but I will be able to offer them at £49/$81 including shipping cost from Japan to worldwide.
I can give some discount to multiple purchase(for the shipping will be cheaper when I send several coils together) .

If you are not in hurry and can wait for a month or two until I get in the coils, when you make a reservation and I will give 5% off from the total price.

Again, I guarantee the coils I offer are MADE IN JAPAN.

Hope you guys like this offer...
 
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 10:58 AM
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Well done Ikuma,
It would be excellent if someone can offer genuine OEM ignition coils for X300, as well as SNG Barratt. We all know these coils are a bit of a weak point with these engines, along with the cranks sensors and the lambda sensors.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2014 | 11:34 AM
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Does the long tube that connects them to the plug screw on? Luckily, I haven't needed to investigate this issue.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2014 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mgb4tim
Does the long tube that connects them to the plug screw on? Luckily, I haven't needed to investigate this issue.
I believe you're referring to the rubber "boot". The coil consists of 3 components:
* Coil
* Insulating rubber boot (not screwed on, simply pushed on)
* Spring connector (inside of the boot)

 
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