2002 Vanden Plas XJ8 remove gas tank access to fuel lines
I have a 2002 jaguar Vanden Plas. I had the fuel pump replaced but when reassembled gas is leaking into the trunk and under the rear seat. I’ve drained the tank and dried everything out but working at home I have no access to where the two fuel lines connected to the tank. I’m sure the issue was right there. Is there a way to cut a hole in the floorboard of the car Under the rear seat to gain access to where these lines connect into the gas tank. From there I think I can correct the leak in the worst case use a material like JB weld to coat the lines and the connections into the tank to stop the leak. Has anyone ever done work like this where you cut a hole in the floorboard to access these two lines.
Thank you for that video but I’ve already seen that. My issue is right where the seat meets the back of the seat dead center is where the two fuel lines come out of the tank and go under the car it’s this area that they’re leaking into the trunk and into the backseat area. My thought is to cut the steel in this area to allow for easy access versus coming underneath the car where the differentials in the way. From there I can find out why it is leaking and address the problem do you have any experience with this
The fuel lines were likely NOT removed and the proper procedure was NOT followed.
You now see the results by people that just use shortcuts.
I believe that the fuel lines are NLA and you will need to source used pipes.
good luck.
bob
You now see the results by people that just use shortcuts.
I believe that the fuel lines are NLA and you will need to source used pipes.
good luck.
bob
I agree in fact the fuel pump was replaced in the same manner that you see in the video on this post. I believe what’s happened is either the fuel lines are broken or the fixtures in the tank but if you want to push in the lines either way work needs to be done. With that said I’m still looking for an answer can I cut through the floor Board so I can access the lines and either remove them to remove the tank or if it is the fixtures in the tank then just simply put some JB Weld around them in the line to stop the fuel leak
Some on the forum have had success with "springing" the fuel lines out far enough to access the pump. So, that might have seemed like the way to go. Mine didn't have anywhere near enough rubber tubing in the line-only one had any-to pull the tank out without badly straining the metal lines and their connectors.
But, the safe way of doing the change--and the real, surefire "shortcut"--starts with disconnecting (and preserving) the lines as shown in the factory manual and in related threads here, including one started 3-10-18 labeled "Fuel Lines". The sad part for your situation is that from here on to the successful completion, the easiest part of the repair job you now face will be the removal of the lines that's needed after all. BTW, at the end of the video noted above are other videos that include same need on an XK8 that has the same line access problems. The shown method of line release uses a fabricated QD release tool design that is a standard with Jag veterans like Highhorse and probably many others. As you get the QDs released, be patient with pulling them out. The lines are likely now sprung and will be binding like mad,even when the tank is slid back into the installed position.
And last, after all the line and fitting replacements you'll need, an epoxy patch has no place in liquid systems--on the road or at home. If you can safely get home with no fire in the event that it breaks, then go ahead.
Lots of work ahead; hope it goes alright and gets you back to the fun part of having a Jag!!
But, the safe way of doing the change--and the real, surefire "shortcut"--starts with disconnecting (and preserving) the lines as shown in the factory manual and in related threads here, including one started 3-10-18 labeled "Fuel Lines". The sad part for your situation is that from here on to the successful completion, the easiest part of the repair job you now face will be the removal of the lines that's needed after all. BTW, at the end of the video noted above are other videos that include same need on an XK8 that has the same line access problems. The shown method of line release uses a fabricated QD release tool design that is a standard with Jag veterans like Highhorse and probably many others. As you get the QDs released, be patient with pulling them out. The lines are likely now sprung and will be binding like mad,even when the tank is slid back into the installed position.
And last, after all the line and fitting replacements you'll need, an epoxy patch has no place in liquid systems--on the road or at home. If you can safely get home with no fire in the event that it breaks, then go ahead.
Lots of work ahead; hope it goes alright and gets you back to the fun part of having a Jag!!
Last edited by NEECAPR; Jul 16, 2018 at 09:13 AM. Reason: The word 'even' was omitted.
A jack and stands, someone with thin arms and a set of QD line tools like these below would make things a lot easier for you.
Using an epoxy on your PETROL tank is something I would NOT advise.
I just hope it's the lines and not the tank connectors that are damaged, for your sake.
To answer your original question, no access to the tank via the floor as the rear suspension unit sits in the way, unless you want to cut a bit out of that also.
Using an epoxy on your PETROL tank is something I would NOT advise.
I just hope it's the lines and not the tank connectors that are damaged, for your sake.
To answer your original question, no access to the tank via the floor as the rear suspension unit sits in the way, unless you want to cut a bit out of that also.
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Sorry all interested readers. The video I referred to above is not always there in the follow-on menu. Simply click on this for the XK8 line removal, supply/return lines are similar to these M/Y XJs:
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I just did a fuel pump on mine and to get to the lines above the differential I just dropped the rear subframe about 5 inches by undoing the 10 bolts holding the subframe in but no others. It then will drop just enough to get to the lines .
I just did a fuel pump on mine and to get to the lines above the differential I just dropped the rear subframe about 5 inches by undoing the 10 bolts holding the subframe in but no others. It then will drop just enough to get to the lines .
The problem is solved in terms of accessing the disconnects for the gas lines for this fuel tank. Huge issue but now going forward it will not be an issue. See the attached pics.
In the end there was no problem with the gas lines and the connection. Rather the issue was the gas tank itself that was rusting out from the inside and had many pin holes on the bottom that require patching so I sent the tank out for reconditioning. As of this post I’m waiting for to come back
Last edited by Djmcmann; Jul 24, 2018 at 06:49 PM. Reason: Add pic
I'm facing this now, or the local shop wants $500 to put my pump in (labor only). Dropping the subframe sounds like the way to go if you don't want all the under car fiddling with the lines. Was getting the subframe lined back up fairly straight forward? No alignment issues? Does dropping it down make the lines really easy to disconnect? Was it worth it to drop the subframe, or if you had to do it again, would you just leave it in and deal with the lines?
If I did it again I'd drop the sub frame again.
There are two alignment pins at the front mounts so going back up was fine.
alignment seems fine but sould probably be checked.
my alignment is probably off any way 124k miles and was in storage for 9 years.
As I cautioned before if you have heavy rust there could be problems.
There are two alignment pins at the front mounts so going back up was fine.
alignment seems fine but sould probably be checked.
my alignment is probably off any way 124k miles and was in storage for 9 years.
As I cautioned before if you have heavy rust there could be problems.
Somewhere back in my post history is a custom tool I made (with fabrication instructions) for removing the lines. I found that the standard quick release tools were just a bit shorter then desired. Its totally doable to remove the lines in your driveway without dropping the frame, it just takes patience and the right tools
Those holes in the back seat area look like they were made with a cutting disc in a grinder. Right? Wrong? Weren't there gobs-o-sparks? Seems like that would be a good way to die in an explosion.
A few points, first of all, I ran the car until the gas tank was empty, even then, I started it multiple time and it would run a few minutes and stop. It was not until it would not start at all that I determined the tank was empty as much as I could get it. Second, I opened the trunk and doors and let the car air out and dry out for over 2 days before trying any cutting. In regards to the actual cutting, I did first use a grinding wheel but only to make about a 3 inch straight lind cut, from there, I changed to a sawsall with a small blade and cut the blance to reduce the chance of sparks. The entire process worked great with no issues.
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