MAF Causing Rough Idle?
#1
MAF Causing Rough Idle?
Good day distinguished gentlemen (and any lurking ladies),
Previously on FML, my friend who WAS watching my car in back in the States cracked the infamous crank case breather hose and melted my MAF Connector: MAF Wiring Harness Melted - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum.
Currently on FML (FMJ?), a more capable friend has been working to fixed what turned out to be a much more complicated issue. New wires were spliced in and a new(used) MAF was fitted just in case. Put it all back together and very rough idle and supercharger making clunky noises. Good idle with MAF disconnected. Did a Battery Terminal Hard Reset. No change. Tried the other (original) MAF. No change; rough idle. Checked spark plugs. Minor oil leak and some decent fouling(6 year old Denso Iridium Twin Tips). Replaced with NGK 96457 Ruthenium Spark Plugs. No change; still rough idle with either MAF connected. Cleaned MAF. Reconnected. No change.
I'm not sure if there is a relay or fuse we need to check, order a new ECU, or perhaps both MAFs were bad this whole time,... I'm sure melted wires aren't good, but if anyone has any good ideas, they would be greatly appreciated!
Engine Code was read as P0112 which I believe is the following:
Should I buy a brand new DENSO MAF or could the wires still be causing a problem?
Cheers!
Previously on FML, my friend who WAS watching my car in back in the States cracked the infamous crank case breather hose and melted my MAF Connector: MAF Wiring Harness Melted - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum.
Currently on FML (FMJ?), a more capable friend has been working to fixed what turned out to be a much more complicated issue. New wires were spliced in and a new(used) MAF was fitted just in case. Put it all back together and very rough idle and supercharger making clunky noises. Good idle with MAF disconnected. Did a Battery Terminal Hard Reset. No change. Tried the other (original) MAF. No change; rough idle. Checked spark plugs. Minor oil leak and some decent fouling(6 year old Denso Iridium Twin Tips). Replaced with NGK 96457 Ruthenium Spark Plugs. No change; still rough idle with either MAF connected. Cleaned MAF. Reconnected. No change.
I'm not sure if there is a relay or fuse we need to check, order a new ECU, or perhaps both MAFs were bad this whole time,... I'm sure melted wires aren't good, but if anyone has any good ideas, they would be greatly appreciated!
Engine Code was read as P0112 which I believe is the following:
- Faulty Intake Air Temperature (IAT) sensor
- Dirty air filter
- Intake Air Temperature (IAT) sensor harness is open or shorted
- Intake Air Temperature (IAT) sensor circuit poor electrical connection
Should I buy a brand new DENSO MAF or could the wires still be causing a problem?
Cheers!
Last edited by erick_151; 01-31-2022 at 10:28 PM.
#2
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Trying to escape Central Florida
Posts: 4,639
Received 1,771 Likes
on
1,304 Posts
Have you gotten any codes?...please list if so.
Check the pins on the MAF, there have been issues of them pushing out.
Have you checked the breather connection at the cover for any obstruction?
Did you splice in that harness that xalty recommended?...I would check the splices and verify connection. I like using these because all you need is a heat gun... ...a lighter will work, but can burn the seal ability and is not consistent.
Check the pins on the MAF, there have been issues of them pushing out.
Have you checked the breather connection at the cover for any obstruction?
Did you splice in that harness that xalty recommended?...I would check the splices and verify connection. I like using these because all you need is a heat gun... ...a lighter will work, but can burn the seal ability and is not consistent.
The following users liked this post:
erick_151 (02-01-2022)
#4
#6
#7
Have you gotten any codes?...please list if so.
Check the pins on the MAF, there have been issues of them pushing out.
Have you checked the breather connection at the cover for any obstruction?
Did you splice in that harness that xalty recommended?...I would check the splices and verify connection. I like using these because all you need is a heat gun... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ...a lighter will work, but can burn the seal ability and is not consistent.
Check the pins on the MAF, there have been issues of them pushing out.
Have you checked the breather connection at the cover for any obstruction?
Did you splice in that harness that xalty recommended?...I would check the splices and verify connection. I like using these because all you need is a heat gun... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ...a lighter will work, but can burn the seal ability and is not consistent.
Trending Topics
#8
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Trying to escape Central Florida
Posts: 4,639
Received 1,771 Likes
on
1,304 Posts
My bad on the code inquiry, ...habit to do so since so many don't.
Some heat shrink would of been nice, way better shielding than tape. But at least he soldered them, kudos on that effort. Here's a cheaper version of what I posted earlier for solder joints...
By chance, was that new (used) MAF from the same place he got that new connector? If so, then yeah, I'd be looking at a new one (not used)...if you can't find Denso, ..Delphi makes some descent components.
Some heat shrink would of been nice, way better shielding than tape. But at least he soldered them, kudos on that effort. Here's a cheaper version of what I posted earlier for solder joints...
By chance, was that new (used) MAF from the same place he got that new connector? If so, then yeah, I'd be looking at a new one (not used)...if you can't find Denso, ..Delphi makes some descent components.
The following users liked this post:
erick_151 (02-03-2022)
#10
My apologies. I'm not sure what part you are referring to. I thought the air temp sensor was in the MAF.
The following users liked this post:
erick_151 (02-03-2022)
The following users liked this post:
erick_151 (02-03-2022)
#13
#14
My bad on the code inquiry, ...habit to do so since so many don't.
Some heat shrink would of been nice, way better shielding than tape. But at least he soldered them, kudos on that effort. Here's a cheaper version of what I posted earlier for solder joints...https://www.amazon.com/Kuject-Solder...07T1HYJ9G&th=1
By chance, was that new (used) MAF from the same place he got that new connector? If so, then yeah, I'd be looking at a new one (not used)...if you can't find Denso, ..Delphi makes some descent components.
Some heat shrink would of been nice, way better shielding than tape. But at least he soldered them, kudos on that effort. Here's a cheaper version of what I posted earlier for solder joints...https://www.amazon.com/Kuject-Solder...07T1HYJ9G&th=1
By chance, was that new (used) MAF from the same place he got that new connector? If so, then yeah, I'd be looking at a new one (not used)...if you can't find Denso, ..Delphi makes some descent components.
Thank you!
#15
Code P0112 points to a problem related to IATS. As the second MAF shows the same problem, it is unlikely that the fault is in the IATS itself. I would check the continuity of the wires (Black/Green and Blue/Purple) to the relevant ECU pins (see the attached PDF engine management diagram). The code suggests an open circuit in one of these wires.
#16
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Trying to escape Central Florida
Posts: 4,639
Received 1,771 Likes
on
1,304 Posts
The following users liked this post:
erick_151 (02-11-2022)
#20
Buddy tested the wires and sent the following:
Running continuity: between UP and BG Abt 3k ohms. So no opens in those wires. GY-WU 186k. GY-BY 186k. BY-WU 182 ohms. So no opens or shorts. Black wires connected to ground. With the power on UP has 5 volts. WU-12v and GY-21miliv. Not sure what the numbers are supposed to be but certainly no opens or shorts in the wires. Strange.
So I guess I should buy an ECU and/or MAF?
Running continuity: between UP and BG Abt 3k ohms. So no opens in those wires. GY-WU 186k. GY-BY 186k. BY-WU 182 ohms. So no opens or shorts. Black wires connected to ground. With the power on UP has 5 volts. WU-12v and GY-21miliv. Not sure what the numbers are supposed to be but certainly no opens or shorts in the wires. Strange.
So I guess I should buy an ECU and/or MAF?