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Old Jun 14, 2015 | 03:28 PM
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I just pulled my son's transmission out of his XJ8, expecting to replace the A-drum. Imagine my surprise to find the A-drum perfectly intact. I began to tear things down a little bit and finally found what I believe to be the reasons I had long, weak shifts and why it finally started to flare and bounce around during 2-3 shifts-

1. There is an o-ring missing from the A-drum shaft- probably from the last person who was inside the box (don't see how it could have come off any other way)
2. There is a fairly significant crack in the piston that sits at the base of the A-drum.

Does anyone know who carries A-drum clutch pistons? Even used would be ok- I just want this thing back on the road. I found F- clutches, but not A-drum clutches.





OUCH!
 
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Old Jun 15, 2015 | 04:09 PM
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UPDATE: Found a bad 5hp24 BMW transmission sitting in some guys yard for $20 on Craigslist and saved some bucks.

The innards appear to be the same and fit as such. Also found that I was missing a spring under the clutch piston (there was one and should have been two- so that proabably also explains my slow shifts before I began having problems. Transmission is in now, and shifts great.

After R&Ring 4 times between swapping out mine and his we have it wired.

ON A SIDE NOTE: I now have two perfectly good (original) A-drums (one from the beemer and one from the transmission- I used the A-drum I bought new) if anyone is interested PM me. I may keep one for my next project, but I certainly do not need 2. I also have the innards of a BMW 5hp24 (minus the A-drum clutch piston) in case anyone needs random other parts.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2015 | 07:28 PM
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At the risk of talking to myself through the entire thread, is anybody interested in a how-to for ONLY repairing the A-drum, and not a complete rebuild? There are a couple things not mentioned that I would have liekd to have when I did it (torque specs, how to remove, check the slultch piston for damage) Let me know
 
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Old Jun 17, 2015 | 07:49 AM
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If you have the time, you should document it. As these cars age, many of us will be faced with the same problem.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2015 | 08:34 AM
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+1 I think it should be in the sitcky's.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2015 | 08:37 AM
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+2 looking forward to it.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2015 | 09:29 AM
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Ok, will do- I'll try and add pictures as well.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 08:49 PM
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I've been lazily repairing my transmission for about six months... crazy you did it in what sounds like an afternoon! but I've got a simple couple of questions.
first, why in all the instructions I've seen on here, does it not say anything about having to remove a line to what I believe is the power steering/ rack and pinion, to access the port to remove and install the torque converter? I was hesitant to mess with it for some time... I'm a rookie on auto mechanics, and without someone with me that's done it before, I get timid. anyway, I finally removed it.
second, what size is the socket to go on the harmonic balancer to rotate the fly wheel? I think I saw mentioned, only turn block clockwise while viewing from standing in front of car. anyone with additional pointers, please all advice welcome!!

thanks,

Jon
 
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Old Jun 26, 2015 | 09:55 AM
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Yes, an afternoon...It helps to have a son working alongisde me.

The socket for the crankshaft bolt is 24mm I believe, only trun clockwise. I created a how to- check it out.

As for the power steering line, it should not be in the way.. you should have *just* enough room to fit a 3/8 14mm socket and a 3/8 ratchet into the hole to remove the TC bolts. It's a bit fiddly to work with, but I do not like having to deal with steering lines etc.
 
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