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Old Aug 17, 2015 | 06:17 PM
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You all keep saying Valet key. I understand the theory, but i couldn't have been a valet key!!! How in the heck is the valet suppose to park the car if he/she can't start the motor???? Valet keys are typically door and ignition only, no trunk, no petrol, no glove box...etc...
Oh, but the old lucas and the great ideas I'm guessing
Your right, the meaning is changing from post to post. Mine came with this 3rd key, and I can understand why some dealers with held it. I found it confusing at first till I read these threads. Just a way to let others move the car without giving access to storage areas.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2015 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by amaezing
You all keep saying Valet key. I understand the theory, but i couldn't have been a valet key!!! How in the heck is the valet suppose to park the car if he/she can't start the motor???? Valet keys are typically door and ignition only, no trunk, no petrol, no glove box...etc...
Oh, but the old lucas and the great ideas I'm guessing
Obviously you're right, maybe we're using the term "valet" incorrectly, but what the heck - the third key exists for some reason!! although in my case, it's missing. Anyhow, you can see it described in the owners handbook.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2015 | 09:00 PM
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Your right, the meaning is changing from post to post. Mine came with this 3rd key, and I can understand why some dealers with held it. I found it confusing at first till I read these threads. Just a way to let others move the car without giving access to storage areas.
Yea I understand. But others couldn't "move" it with that key. Just funny that it's referred to as a "valet" key. Heck I can't even think of a name to call a key that you can taken all a persons fuel and the cassettes in the cab. Oh I know. A "thief" key.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2015 | 12:38 AM
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....Oh I know. A "thief" key.
Wasn't that why they placed one under the front wing?
(come to think of it, since no single key fits everything, I wonder which one they chose as the hidden key!)

And NOW I find that my ignition key also operates the door lock!!

Still a mystery as to why my round headed key (#1 in the handbook diagram) doesn't operate the filler caps. All part of Jag's eccentricity I guess, so I will get those locks re-keyed.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2015 | 06:00 AM
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Jose, the 2 keys in your pics are like the ones I have, and the handbook reference to keys is shown below. So it seems a third key must have existed at some point in time and was probably the valet key as Nigel has mentioned, giving access to door and filler caps only.
I have looked underneath for the factory hidden key and not surprisingly it is missing!
Tony, thanks for the picture;

I understand now, but just as in my '84, Key Number 1 operates all the locks. What I don't understand is why it doesn't in your car. Seems like Key Number 2 is not really needed.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2015 | 07:59 AM
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Wonder if you ended up with fuel caps off another car during the resto?
 
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Old Aug 18, 2015 | 09:21 AM
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Wonder if you ended up with fuel caps off another car during the resto?
or different locks?
 
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Old Aug 18, 2015 | 10:42 AM
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Jose:


How slow can you get? I am far from a fast mechanic. those days are gone and going still. I can get the window and sunroof switches on the bench in 15, well if really slow, 20!!!


Two pans, a Pozi driver and a slot screw driver. a small Phillips will do. Oh, a means for corrosion cleaning, pencil eraser, or if fancy, contact cleaner. A tad of dielectric is optional.


Reverse, in about the same time. Don't loose the teeny screws and washers???


Graphite was/is popular as a lock tumbler lube.


My S3 has three keys, well, four now. Rubber tipped for ignition. Small flat top for glove compartment and ? small dome top for gas caps and boot.


Xtra as I replaced an original problemsome ignition switch with a dandy from David Boger.


Oddities. A replacement dey operated the driver door and the ignition. No key open the passenger door??


The Brit way!!!! My Jeep has one key that does all. Oh and a remote FOB. Dead batteries at the moment, but so....


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Old Aug 18, 2015 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by yarpos
Wonder if you ended up with fuel caps off another car during the resto?
Seems the only logical conclusion Steve. It's an unusual item to change over though, and why/how the key is missing is a frustrating mystery!
 
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Old Aug 19, 2015 | 07:45 AM
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Was rereading some of the post and looked at your scanned page. I had completely the wrong idea what the 3rd (concave top, not saying the V word) key did. How completely useless. I think that one will get tossed in the next key audit.

Can only imagine it made some sense in British society and car service organisations at the time idea started, and carried on for way to long.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2015 | 07:59 AM
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I am starting to wonder if the Third Key is the one that came under the wing / fender, the famous "hidden spare". But I agree it is useless especially if Key Number 1 does the same thing and more.

I also think the locks may have been replaced at the filler caps.

Carl, I am not THAT slow, just very careful and meticulous when working in cars, especially the center console in the XJ-6, it is so easy to damage.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2015 | 09:09 AM
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[...] just very careful and meticulous when working in cars, especially the center console in the XJ-6, it is so easy to damage.
OH yeah!!
(';')
 
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Old Aug 19, 2015 | 10:15 AM
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Really?


Ham handed to an extent me, has opened mine sans any major damage. Lost the male part of the latch on the cubby lid. No harm, no foul, gravity does the job just fine.


Yeah, I know, a visit to a an appliance store might find one. But, if I 'fix" it, I am thinking magnetic cabinet latch.


Decades ago, I removed a most uncomfortable bench seat from my 79 IHC Scout II. I replaced it with a pair of most comfortable buckets from a Cordoba. Not mine.
That left an unsightly and useless gap between the seats. So, I used my cabinetry "skills" and made a console. Padded and covered in real leather. Much like a Jaguar, although at the time, I did not realize it. The magnetic cabinet latch worked perfectly. It's new owner admired it


Great truck SUV percussor. Great power plant and running gear. Lousy body!!!


Looked good. Cal Trans orange. White big spockers. Twin cop spot lights. CB. Electric trailer brakes. Dock rear bumper. Over bumper fogs.


After market cruise control and trop computer.


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Old Aug 22, 2015 | 02:09 AM
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Finally got around to taking a few shots today, perfect weather so "The Duchess" (her new moniker) was allowed out for a run.

Only a couple of items on the fix list done so far:

1. Windows now raise faster than a speeding bullet thanks to WD40 Dry PTFE lube (pictured) sprayed in the channels then about a dozen or so ups & downs to get it all nicely distributed. If anyone is suffering lazy or dormant windows, this stuff works wonders. And it's designed to repel rather than attract dirt.

2. Rear bumper fixed. The beam wasn't dented after all, but the rubber had somehow become distorted. Manipulated it slightly and replaced the lower clips with larger/stronger ones to hold the shape - job done, looks much better.

The engine bay shows that detailing work is required, duly added to the list.

I decided to re-register her on Club Permit / Historic Vehicle plates. A very cheap option compared to full reg. She won't be a daily driver so this suits me fine.

Now back to that list!
 
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Old Aug 22, 2015 | 04:36 AM
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very nice.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2015 | 05:09 AM
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right purty automobile

Theres a lot of engine isnt there? when your LUMP conditioned you tend to forget the engine bay is normally quite full
 
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Old Aug 22, 2015 | 05:57 AM
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haven't seen that WD40-dry spray over here in the USA. I'm ready to try it.

that car looks excellent. What is the edging that can be seen on the front wing ? Never seen that thin edging before. Can you take a picture that shows how it is attached ?? Looks very good.
 

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Old Aug 22, 2015 | 07:37 AM
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that car looks excellent. What is the edging that can be seen on the front wing ? Never seen that thin edging before.
I believe that is the pinstripes.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2015 | 08:10 AM
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I was referring to the wheel openings, seems like a chrome ediging ?
 
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Old Aug 22, 2015 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Jose
I was referring to the wheel openings, seems like a chrome ediging ?
I didn't even notice them. Those would look way bad a@# on my black jag. Gotta find some for me now. I'm sure they simply fasten by screws underneath.
 
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