XJ6 & XJ12 Series I, II & III 1968-1992

New to this forum

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 5, 2019 | 06:00 PM
  #1  
shelikesjag20's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 14
Likes: 1
From: Idaho
Thumbs up New to this forum

Hi Everyone. I bought an 85 Jag xj6 series 3 about 5 years ago, was in really good shape. Have had a few problems over the years but nothing major until now, I have a crank but no start condition. I have spark, fuel, and injectors fire. The tach barely moves when cranking but oddly enough the speedometer climbs to about 80 mph, never seen that happen before. My question is, does this 85 xj6 have a crankshaft position sensor and if yes where is it located? Great info on this forum thanks to all of you.
 
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2019 | 06:41 PM
  #2  
Doug's Avatar
Veteran Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 25,526
Likes: 11,717
From: Pacific Northwest USA
Default

Hi!

No crank position sensor.

Weird speedo activity suggests lack of voltage or poor ground; somewhat common. May/may not be related to your no-start condition

When you say you "have fuel", does that mean you checked the fuel pressure? If so, what is it?

Cheers
DD
 
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2019 | 07:52 AM
  #3  
shelikesjag20's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 14
Likes: 1
From: Idaho
Smile crank and no start

Hi Doug
I did check the fuel pressure and it is about 36 psi. I had replaced the coil the other day due to no spark and it was trying to start but wouldn't fire up. Yesterday I just kept cranking and cranking it and slowly it started up and run rough and then it suddenly leveled out and ran smooth. It was like something was blocking it and then it suddenly cut loose and ran. Let it run for a while then shut it off then started awhile later and it seems to run ok now. Thanks for the reply Doug, was very helpful.
 
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2019 | 11:56 AM
  #4  
JagCad's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 6,796
Likes: 2,403
From: Walnut Creek, California
Default

Why is not for us to reason why, but only to do!! Rudyard Kipling, and Gungha Din , A Brit !
And, it is a Brit car!!!.

Reality:. It flooded with fuel on cranking with no spark. continued cranking with spark cleared itr and it ran!!!

Either way, it is what it is, good.,

Carl

 
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2019 | 12:50 PM
  #5  
Crackerbuzz's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 415
Likes: 208
Default

Originally Posted by shelikesjag20
Hi Doug
I did check the fuel pressure and it is about 36 psi. I had replaced the coil the other day due to no spark and it was trying to start but wouldn't fire up. Yesterday I just kept cranking and cranking it and slowly it started up and run rough and then it suddenly leveled out and ran smooth. It was like something was blocking it and then it suddenly cut loose and ran. Let it run for a while then shut it off then started awhile later and it seems to run ok now. Thanks for the reply Doug, was very helpful.
Sounds like a fuel filter... it may struggle again. Have you replaced it?
 
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2019 | 09:15 PM
  #6  
LT1 jaguar's Avatar
Veteran Member
Active Streak: 60 Days
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,893
Likes: 1,383
From: Wasilla,Alaska
Default

I'm with Carl on this one. A lot of cranking without the engine firing up will load the cylinders with too much fuel. If, after repeated cranking, you get a cylinder or two to start firing, it usually will clean up and run normally. Back in the carburetor days, the method to clear a flooded engine was to hold the gas pedal to the floor and crank until it started firing. The trick was to back off the pedal quickly to half or quarter throttle when it seems like engine will come to life. This same method can be used on GM fuel injected engines of early 2000's vintage, I would think this ability is common, but most people don't think about it.

Dave
 
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2019 | 08:16 AM
  #7  
shelikesjag20's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 14
Likes: 1
From: Idaho
Default Dear JagCad

Originally Posted by JagCad
Why is not for us to reason why, but only to do!! Rudyard Kipling, and Gungha Din , A Brit !
And, it is a Brit car!!!.

Reality:. It flooded with fuel on cranking with no spark. continued cranking with spark cleared itr and it ran!!!

Either way, it is what it is, good.,

Carl
I think you, Rudyard and Gunga Din are right, "Don't ask why, just keep it simple". Thanks Carl and have a great day.
 
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2019 | 08:30 AM
  #8  
shelikesjag20's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 14
Likes: 1
From: Idaho
Default Dear JagCad

Originally Posted by JagCad
Why is not for us to reason why, but only to do!! Rudyard Kipling, and Gungha Din , A Brit !
And, it is a Brit car!!!.

Reality:. It flooded with fuel on cranking with no spark. continued cranking with spark cleared itr and it ran!!!

Either way, it is what it is, good.,

Carl
I think you, Rudyard and Gunga Din are right, "Don't ask why, just keep it simple". Thanks Carl and have a great day.
 
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2019 | 08:39 AM
  #9  
shelikesjag20's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 14
Likes: 1
From: Idaho
Default

You're right Dave, I remember the good old carburetor days, I just didn't connect it to fuel injection. I should have realized it when I sprayed starter fluid in the mass air sensor and it didn't fire. Thanks for your reply Dave.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
95rustxj6
XJ XJ6 / XJR6 ( X300 )
16
Sep 9, 2016 01:05 AM
robc7gt
XJ40 ( XJ81 )
4
Jul 15, 2014 07:41 PM
Kris smith
XJ40 ( XJ81 )
7
Oct 20, 2012 12:32 PM
HouseCallAuto
XJ40 ( XJ81 )
3
Jun 27, 2011 11:07 AM
rcarpenter
XJ40 ( XJ81 )
14
Mar 15, 2011 01:08 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:52 PM.