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Hey all!
not been on for awhile as all been good.
I bought a couple of XJS this one i'm working is is a 1989 Vin is SAJNA5844KC151224.
Poor car had engine fire before I got it. am in need of a donor car or parts to get this old girl going again.
So far I cant find anything for the wiring diagram. I know its a Lucas system. If anyone has any help for a poor old guy that will help. here are a few pics if it will help someone help me out. Thanks guy and gals.
Glad to see you wanting to keep one of these old gals alive. Contact david@everydayxj.com
I know there are a lot of great vendors on here, as I have used many of them. David offers used parts at a great prices.
That isn't an 89 engine. The 89 ALWAYS had the Marelli ignition system. The visible coil and the amp on the intake show that the car is older. Probably 88 or earlier.
Marelli ignition started into production in 89, but Lucas was still the ignition starting 89 production, so there were a few months production of non Marelli 89s
That isn't an 89 engine. The 89 ALWAYS had the Marelli ignition system.
"Always" and "never" are troublesome words
Model year confusion.
Our OP is from Topeka so we can assume this is a USA-market car...and USA model year designations are often different than ROW.
My USA market 1987 Series III XJ6 had a build date of August 1986 but carried a 1987 VIN. In many parts of the it would be considered a 1986 car, though.
My USA market XJS had a build date of Feb 1987 but carried a 1988 VIN. Surely a 1987 in most other parts of the world!
For USA market XJSs the Marelli ignition was a mid-year change for 1989 model year cars, as already mentioned. The time of the change may well have been during the 1988 calendar year, though.
The attachment, gives the VIN breaks and describes it as a mid-year change. Notice the material is dated 1988 but refers to 1989 model year cars.
Model year confusion. Our OP is from Topeka so we can assume this is a USA-market car...and USA model year designations are often different than ROW.
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Another of DD's brilliantly simple, but so very important, clarifications. How unfortunate that so many of us are reluctant to use VIN#s to clearly differentiate our cars . . . but even then, as I understand it, USA changed those provided by Jaguar, making even that highly accurate spec of dubious value.
In these troubled times, I guess I can understand many being reluctant to get too specific with their details . . . I mean, how can I be sure none of you guys is gunna jump a succession of planes, then launch into a 700Km trip into regional outback Australia, find me and my Jaguars, pinch one, and still manage to escape our man-eating Koalas? Can't be too careful.
For ages, Australia simply inherited "home market" (read UK spec) for its Jaguars . . . all RHD, all MPH, MPG and all other British acronyms. We even got the red hot E-Types. But then, starting in mid 60s and accelerating through 70s, we took a path that changed not just currency but moved to full decimalization - Km, Litres, you name it. Slowly, Jaguar became sensitive to Australia (NZ also?) as a ROW market spec. Some Aussies took this as a compliment . . . many more did not. Jaguar sales sagged . . . or was that the BLMC "agricultural" influence?
By the new century, Jaguar had us placed at one end of the head table, warranting our own market designators and a general market spec of "give them the lot and charge accordingly". In return, and especially here on JF, it keeps us very aware of these issues of differing MY, differing market specs, option lists etc.
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Another of DD's brilliantly simple, but so very important, clarifications. How unfortunate that so many of us are reluctant to use VIN#s to clearly differentiate our cars . . . but even then, as I understand it, USA changed those provided by Jaguar, making even that highly accurate spec of dubious value.
Thanks for the kind words
The VINs were not changed by anyone in the USA; Jaguar itself assigned the USA-compliant VINs to the cars.
Adding to the confusion, as if there wasn't already enough, the USA-market Jags of this era actually carried *two* VINs. The "born with" VIN as stamped above the firewall, and the USA-compliant VIN on a tag on the windshield pillar. The uninitiated can get worried over this....two different VINs in plain sight on the same car. Yikes! What the ^%$# does THAT mean? I know from personal experience, having once been a newbie with a 2-VIN Jaguar
(In some cases, though, the USA government DOES assign a VIN to a car. I've seen gray-market imports with such VIN tags, assigned and applied during the importation-and-compliance process.)
Years ago one of the Jaguar vendors had gotten hold of a slew of beautiful, large, laminated VIN decoding charts. These were an actual Jaguar publication. Interesting and fun novelty item for Jag lovers. Problem is, the vendor was in the USA and was selling them to USA customers.....but they decoded only ROW VINs, not the USA-compliant VINs. Confusion and chaos ensued
Thanks guys for letting me know the years. However this is a 1989 and I do have a 1987 also. both cars has the Lucas wiring and this is from the factory. Not sure when changes were made but this is all I have seen in this area of the world. I hope to find the parts needed to get this old girl up and running again. If anyone has real information that will be appreciated greatly. I have a 1999 VP and that engine as a whole has bee much easier to work on so far. I've got a couple of huge challenges in front of me and can use all the help I can get as funds are all but gone and refuse to just part out really good cars.
If anyone has real information that will be appreciated greatly . . . I've got a couple of huge challenges in front of me and can use all the help I can get as funds are all but gone and refuse to just part out really good cars.
Tim, I note you didn't acknowledge the S57 link in Doug's #4 post. This should have all you need re the wiring diagrams, especially if you couple it with the Electrical section of the Workshop Manual which is downloadable either here in the Stickies or from Gus' JagRepair.com or at reasonable cost online in traditional printed form. What other resources do you need?
I do have that pdf but it for me does not break it down for the engine area, its just a basic for like the head lamps and parking lamps. That I could see it did not cover the exact engine parts or a block diagram that I could use.
Tim, I note you didn't acknowledge the S57 link in Doug's #4 post. This should have all you need re the wiring diagrams, especially if you couple it with the Electrical section of the Workshop Manual which is downloadable either here in the Stickies or from Gus' JagRepair.com or at reasonable cost online in traditional printed form. What other resources do you need?
Best wishes,
Ken
Also I could use part numbers of what I need for the car. IE the cruise, wiring diagram, coil rotor and cap, etc. I know there's a lot of stuff out there that does not hold up well and want to try to get whats works best as per Jaguar.
I do have that pdf but it for me does not break it down for the engine area, its just a basic for like the head lamps and parking lamps. That I could see it did not cover the exact engine parts or a block diagram that I could use.
Everything on the car is in the S57 but, yes, broken down into sub-sections-- fuel injection, cruise control, etc
I think what you're asking for is something showing where all the wiring goes from the perspective of looking at the engine bay....more of an illustration than a traditional diagram used for tracing a problem. I'm not aware of a wiring schematic from Jaguar (or anywhere) in that form....but others might know of something.
For part numbers (and, often, helpful illustrations) go here
As I need a car just to build and use as a weekend cruiser and daily driver when my xj8 battery dies
2003 xj8
2001 ford f150
Next 5 months xjs hopefully
11-05-2017, 07:30 PM
1989 XJS engine fire
