Very hard ride in 92 XJS convertible
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Very hard ride in 92 XJS convertible
I had a 92 XJS Coupe a few years ago and the ride was beautiful.Very Jaguar like. Smooth and not harsh. My current 92 XJS is a convertible and I feel every pebble and minor bump in the road. It's jarring and very unJaguar like. It has the original springs but the shocks were replaced 3 years ago with Bilstein air shocks. I cant remember the number. I want to get back to the Jaguar smooth ride again and would welcome advise on spring and shock absorber replacement.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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My understanding is that Sachs or Boge ( I believe Sachs has taken over Boge ) should be close to original ride feel. KYB Kg9122 at rear and Bilistien 24-024457 front is a well regarded performance/comfort compromise.
I feel like I need to replace mine. All OEM as far as I can tell. Hard to know without another XJS to compare to but I feel it’s too harsh. I fell every highway seam, every bump. Through the body, not the wheel. If I hit one of those recessed manhole covers I know it. But it’s stable even if lofted in a corner by the road surface at high speed. One pitch and it settles. Certainly not like a Cadillac with bad shocks or one of those spring mounted playground animals by any means.
Question: Are the dual rear shocks used because it’s a structurally simple and torque-free connection? Its certainly not the heavier end of the Jag.
I feel like I need to replace mine. All OEM as far as I can tell. Hard to know without another XJS to compare to but I feel it’s too harsh. I fell every highway seam, every bump. Through the body, not the wheel. If I hit one of those recessed manhole covers I know it. But it’s stable even if lofted in a corner by the road surface at high speed. One pitch and it settles. Certainly not like a Cadillac with bad shocks or one of those spring mounted playground animals by any means.
Question: Are the dual rear shocks used because it’s a structurally simple and torque-free connection? Its certainly not the heavier end of the Jag.
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I had a 92 XJS Coupe a few years ago and the ride was beautiful.Very Jaguar like. Smooth and not harsh. My current 92 XJS is a convertible and I feel every pebble and minor bump in the road. It's jarring and very unJaguar like. It has the original springs but the shocks were replaced 3 years ago with Bilstein air shocks. I cant remember the number. I want to get back to the Jaguar smooth ride again and would welcome advise on spring and shock absorber replacement.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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Yes, I was about to suggest that TP is very much related to ride characteristics.
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That nomenclature thing. Air shocks ? Shock absorbers, better described as dampeners, have been hydraulic for a very long time. The air shocks, I recall were actually air over hydraulic and adjustable as supplementry units for load control.
Oh, The four parts at the rear of our Jaguars are known in the USA as "coil overs".
A very sophisticated suspension. But, it is the total of the spring value that does it. Usually rated in pounds. So four smaller ones can equal two larger ones.
Two big ones up front related to the load. Four smaller ones astern related to the load.
A blt of engineering as it is live load, not a mere dead load to support!!
Were it my car and I desired a softer ride, I would gradually reduce the air pressure.
And, more, consult the tire maker for pressure recommendations. And the Jaguar's owners hand book. Don't be surprised if they differ.
Carl
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That nomenclature thing. Air shocks ? Shock absorbers, better described as dampeners, have been hydraulic for a very long time. The air shocks, I recall were actually air over hydraulic and adjustable as supplementry units for load control.
Oh, The four parts at the rear of our Jaguars are known in the USA as "coil overs".
A very sophisticated suspension. But, it is the total of the spring value that does it. Usually rated in pounds. So four smaller ones can equal two larger ones.
Two big ones up front related to the load. Four smaller ones astern related to the load.
A blt of engineering as it is live load, not a mere dead load to support!!
Were it my car and I desired a softer ride, I would gradually reduce the air pressure.
And, more, consult the tire maker for pressure recommendations. And the Jaguar's owners hand book. Don't be surprised if they differ.
Carl
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Can you even get hydraulic (fluid filled) shocks for a Jag?
I'm under the impression, perhaps wrong, that everyone offers only gas-filled shocks these days?
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Do you mean gas-filled, or actual old-school 'air shocks'....the type you inflate like you'd inflate a tire?
I suspect your Bilsteins are gas-filled.
I agree that Boge/Sachs would be a good choice
After you make the change to something else you might find a willing buyer for your Bilsteins
Cheers
DD
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As far as I know, all shocks have fluid in them. You need fluid to dampen the movements. In the gas shocks, the piston mechanism differ slightly where there is a gas chamber to aid in the movement and recovery to ride height. I believe you can still get fluid only(non-gas) type shocks. Rare though.
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